Feedback on the 3rd meeting of the National Anomaly Committee – AIRF

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Feedback on the 3rd meeting of the National Anomaly Committee

3rd meeting of the National Anomaly Committee was held yesterday, i.e. on 15th February, 2011 under the chairmanship of Secretary(P), DoPT(Government of India), wherein the following deliberations were made.

Though we know that no substantial relief has been given, but we hope for some outcome in the meetings likely to be held in future.

Two issues which are very important from our point of view – one is increment from January for those who falls between February and June was virtually rejected by the Ministry of Finance(Expenditure) but yesterday we again raised this issue, and after prolonged discussions, the Secretary, DoP&T had agreed to review the matter. An indication has also been given that if Staff Side agrees for one time exemption, then the issue can be resolved.

We also raised the issue of MACP Scheme, particularly abolition of GP Rs.2000. The Jt. Secretary(Estt.) stated that we would hold another round of discussions before finalizing the issues related to MACP Scheme.

During my opening remarks, though it was out of agenda, I raised the issue of early finalization of items of Departmental Anomaly Committee which are pending with the MoF(Exp). I stated that the Departmental Anomaly Committee of Railways had sent unanimous recommendations on various items to MoF(Exp.). More than nine months have passed and these issues are still pending with the MoF and the Railwaymen are feeling lot of frustration and therefore these need immediate redressal.

Though orders for Cadre Restructuring have been issued by the DoP&T vide O.M.No.35034/9/2010-Estt.(D) dated 10th February, 2011, we raised the issue that Matching Savings is not possible in the case of Railways. The President/AIRF and Secretary, NC/JCM(Staff Side) also emphasized on the issue and stated that in the Safety Categories, Railways cannot give Matching Savings. Therefore, for Cadre Restructuring, Matching Savings should not be insisted upon. It has been agreed by the Jt.Secretary(Pers.) that if reference comes from the Railways, that would be considered favorable.

Apart from the above issues, we also discussed agenda items which were not discussed so far in the National Anomaly Committee.

Item No.11: Grant revised allowances w.e.f. 1.1.2006 – Staff Side will give list of allowances. Thereafter, it will be discussed.
  
Item No.12 & 13: Transport Allowance – Staff Side will supply details. Thereafter, it will be examined.
  
Item No.14: Revision of existing allowances which are to be withdrawn and replaced by new schemes – If Insurance Scheme is not finalized within six months in consultation with the Staff Side, Risk Allowance and Patient Care Allowance will be doubled.
  
Item No.20: Daily Allowance on tour: – Orders have been issued for Geological Survey of India and Ground Water Board.
  
Item No.28: – Grant of GP Rs.5400 in PB-2 for Astt. Accounts/Audit Officers – Will be taken-up separately with the Jt. Secretary(Pers.) and Estt.
  
Item No.29 and 30: Revision of Base Index for DA and Benchmark in AICPIN Scheme for grant of DA/DR w.e.f. 1.1.2006 on CPC VI level pay/pension restructuring – Staff Side will give list which will be examined by the Jt. Secretary(Pers.)
  
Item No.31: Child Care Leave in respect of Central Government Women Employees as a result of Sixth Pay Commission report – It will be looked into for Defence Employees.
  
Item No.37: Waiver of recovery of higher DA/DR drawn during the period from 1.1.2006 to 31.8.2006 – Not Agreed.
  
Item No.38: Anomaly in fixing grade pay -= Deferred.
  
Item No.39: Anomaly due to not applying uniformly the multiplication factor of 1.86 in fixing the minimum pay in all the revised pay bands applying different – Unresolved.
  
Item No.40: Grant of notional increment as may be due on the first day of July following the superannuation/death in service for computation of emoluments/average emoluments for pensioner benefits – Not Anomaly.
  
Item No.41: Fixation of pay on promotion to a post carrying the same grade pay – Staff Side stated that the issue of Additional Allowance to the Running Staff has been raised. Where it has been emphasized that since DA has already been given on Additional Allowance, other benefits should also be given on Additional Allowance to give proper relief to the Running Staff. For other categories, e.g. ASM to SM in the same grade pay or MCM to JE in the same grade pay since their responsibility increases, therefore, in all fairness, and increment must be given while fixing pay. Official Side asked the Railways to submit the list, so that decision can be taken. Staff Side mentioned that since this issue belongs to Railways only, therefore, powers should be delegated to the Railways as has been done earlier. Official Side mentioned that since the issue has already under reference to National Anomaly Committee, Railways will be asked to submit the list. Thereafter, decision will be taken at an earliest.
  
Item No.43: Anomaly in the pay scale/pay band and grade pay of Library Information Assistants – Already finalized.
  
Item No.44 : Before the 6th Pay Commission, there were 3 HAG scales of pay – Under review.
  
Item No.45: Anomaly in pension of those in receipt of stagnation increments in pre-revised pay scales – Official Side agreed to consider the cases where someone had stagnated beyond one year in the pre-revised scale.
  
Item No. 46 and 49 – Disparity in pay scales and status of officers in stenographers cadre and Anomalies in the matter of pay scales of stenographers – Will be examined.
  
Item No.50: Anomalies in the pay scales of official language staff – Since the issue of Rajbhasha Staff has been sent to Ministry of Finance(Exp.) Official Side agreed to send its approval at an earliest.
  
Item No.51: Assigning higher grade pay of Rs.4600 to Administrative Officer Gr.III and Private Secretary in Subordinate Offices – Resolved.
  
  
  
  
  
  
Courtesy : AIRF

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28 Responses

  1. naresh - February 18, 2011

    Dear sir,
    What about the employees who have no scope of promotion in their organization and are being forced to work on the same post till retirement. The present system of grade pay is hell for them.

  2. RAMESH LAL AHUJA - February 18, 2011

    GRADE PAY OF OOC IN AOC HAS BEEN REVISED AS Rs 4600/- i.e. PRE-REVISED SCALE OF Rs 6500/-. BUT AFTER MERGER OF 5000,5500 AND 6500, ALL CLASS III EMPLOYEES ARE GETTING GRADE PAY OF Rs 4600/- ON COMPLETION OF 30 YEARS OF SERVICE UNDER MACPS, WHEREAS POST OF OOC FALLS UNDER CLASS II AND A GAZETTED POST ALSO CARRYING SAME GRADE PAY OF Rs 4600/-. THEREFORE GRADE PAY OF OOC (ORDNANCE OFFICER (CIVILIAN)) ALSO REQUIRED TO BE HIKED TO Rs 5400/-. PLEASE TAKE THIS ANOMALY IN NEXT MEETING

  3. arbind kumar singh - February 18, 2011

    What will be the minimum pay for the direct recruittee after 2006 in the pay scale of Rs.5000-8000 & Rs.5500-9000/-after merging it into 6500-10500.the minimum pay should be 6500×1.86+4200

  4. Mrs. Parab - February 18, 2011

    Sir, I have joined our institute (autonomous body)on 17th October 1996 as a Tel. Operator,with grade pay of 1900/.(LDC). I have completed 12 years of my service on 17th October 2008 I just missed old ACP. My post is isolated post and there is no promotional avenue/channel
    so there is a provision in our cadreview that after completion 12 years of service I was eligible for the grade pay of Rs. 2800/-. So it is big loss for me because of new MACP. Now I am getting grade pay of Rs.2000/- as per MACP. One important point is that there is another telephone operator in my office who joined on 30the sept. 1996 and completed 12 years on 30th sept. 2008, (we both were selected on same date only joining date is different merely 16 days differnce between us) She got old ACP. Office is saying in her case that it is past case. And I am not eligible for old ACP because of MACP date i.e. 01/09/2008. Please reply me urgently. what is the solution in my case. Give suggestions. Regards.

  5. venki - February 19, 2011

    Dear sir,
    what about of store supervisors having engineering diploma as basic qualification in respect of scale of 5000-8000.

  6. rakesh - February 19, 2011

    what about pay anamoly of IAS vs other civil services. passing from same UPSC exam why govt has made 2 additional increment at 3 scales which is leading to 6 increments benefit to IAS. it is very demotivating for civil services. it is done in violation to 6th pay comm recommendation (independent ) while committe of secretary (biased). how PM has agreed it . whether he knows that.

  7. dsingh - February 21, 2011

    Dear Sir , There are various issues regrding MACP but as Mr. Naresh has raised the issue “What about the employees who have no scope of promotion in their organization and are being forced to work on the same post till retirement. The present system of grade pay is hell for them” is much more important. The review of cadre structure is just eye wash, MACP should be given to promotional grade not in the next grade pay. this will boost the emloyee motivation other wise it will be great injustice to the emplyees who have no scope of promotions or it should be mandatory to give the promotional to the post between the two MACP period.

  8. leelamma koshy - February 23, 2011

    Central Govt. Confederation may kindly take the very important issue that is one increment from January for those whose increment falls between February and June strongly and get favourable orders as the Secretary, DoP&T had agreed to review the matter in the Anomaly committee meetin. As DO P&T gave indication that if Staff Side agrees for one time exemption, then the issue can be resolved, the Confederaion may take up the issue strongly and get favourable orders because large number of central govt officials are affected by this uniform month of increment.

  9. s.k. purkayastha - February 24, 2011

    what about granting 4600 to the Sr, Auditors of IA & AD since the asstt. of central secretariates have already got it ,who were at par with Sr. Ar. acoording to 6th pay commission

  10. ALOK RANJAN - February 26, 2011

    why pay fixation rule ,point no.-7,A (2) published in gazette notification has not been applied in determining pay fixation of existing employees?

  11. v singh - February 27, 2011

    dear sir,
    what about the anamolies done to paramillitary forces in comparison with the army pers and IPS officers.

  12. S.N.SUR - March 1, 2011

    PLEASE SEND ME A LIST OF AUTHORISED MEDICAL ATTENDANT OF WEST BENGAL//

  13. gobinda - March 2, 2011

    Anybody having clear concept of MACP ,please clarify my following doubts :

    I have joined Govt. service in GP 4600/- with no scope of promotion at least for 25 years. My next promotional post if carrying GP 5400/-( PB-3).I am allowed GP-4800/- after completing 10 years of service and GP 5400( PB-2) after 20 years of service. Now , if I got promotion after completing 25 years of service and given GP-5400( PB-3), please clarify the following :
    1) Whether, I will be allowed 3rd financial upgradation after completion of 30 years or not ?

    2) If yes, to which GP !

    3) If not, under what logic, when Some of my colleagues are getting 1st upgradation under ACP at GP-5400( PB-3) in 12 years and have got GP-6600 in 2nd upgradation and will be getting GP-7600 under 3rd upgradation .

    4) Or, whether the 1st and 2nd upgradation allowed to me will not be counted as I have got only one promotion in 25 yeard of service and in my promotional post supposed to get two financial upgradation , one for 20 years of service and 2nd after 30 years of service.

    5) What is the use of GP-5400( PB-2) ?

    There are many more doubts. If some one clarify me the above, more doubts will be put forward.

  14. BHAGAT SINGH - March 4, 2011

    UPGRADATION OF PAY OF JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT/AUDITOR
    JUNIOR ACCOUNTAT AND AUDITORS ARE BACK BONE OF ACCOUNTING/AUDITING SYSTEM. THEY HAVE TO WORK LABOUROUSLY. THEY HAVE TO CHECK ALL THE ENTRIES, CORRECT AND PREPARE THE DRAFT OBJECTIONS ETC. BUT THEIR PAY HAS BEEN FIXED IN CAMPARISON TO THEIR WORK WITH PAST PAY COMMISSIONS IS FAR LESS.
    THEREFORE, PLEASE RAISE THE MATTER REGARDING RAISING THE PAY OF JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT AND AUDITORS TO PB 2 GRADE PAY OF 4600 OR HIGHER

  15. BHAGAT SINGH - March 4, 2011

    DISPARITY IN PAY FIXATION OF PROMOTEES AT PAR WITH DIRECT RECRUITMENT
    NOTHING HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN ANY PREVIOUS RULES IE FR/SR THAT A PROMOTEE WILL GOT LESS PAY THAN A DIRECT RECRUITEE. IT IS OPPOSITE TO NATURAL JUSTICE AND PRINCIPAL OF FIXATION OF PAY RULE AND IS HIGHLY IRREGULARITY IN PRESENT CPC THAT A PROMOTEE GETS LESS PAY THAN A DIRECT RECRUITEE.
    THEREFORE PLEASE RAISE THE MATTER ASKING THE CHAIRMAN, NAC REGARDING LEGALITY OF RULE REGARDING FIXATION OF PAY OF PROMOTEE LESS THAN DIRECT APPOINTEE. IT IS A GREAT ANOMALLY HENCE SHOULD BE ERADICATED BY ONLY MAKING CORRECTION IN THE RP RULE 2008 STATING THAT PAY OF AN EMPLOYEE SHOULD NOT BE FIXED BELOW THE ENTRY GRADE AS WAS IN PAST SINCE INDEPENDENCE. MINIMUM OF SCALE SHOULD MEANS THE PAY A NEWLY APPOINTEE GETS IE ENTRY GRADE AND NOTHING SHOULD BE BELOW THAT PAY.

  16. Kshirsagar PG - March 5, 2011

    The minimum qualification for each post has been very fixed by the government when the individual initially appointed. but what about his higher qualifications? Now a day the person joined the department or government jobs because no alternative in his hand. I request the government to take in to account the higher qualifications of the individual.

  17. Bhagat Singh - March 7, 2011

    1. Merging of the posts of Jr Accountant and Sr Accountant.
    Chairman, NAC and Secretary Employees Federations are requested to pay a little attention towards that as per established strength Junior Accountant and Senior Accountants are combined and their duties are same. Both perform the same duties/work.
    Therefore you are requested to look into the matter, consider their merger and raise the demand of merging both grades in forthcoming NAC meeting please.

    2. Raising the Grade Pay of Junior Accountant/Auditor and Senikor Accountant.
    Moreover the Junior Accountant/Auditors/Senior Accountant are back bone of the accounting/auditing system and being a technical job. They work from morning to evening laborously which being related to mind/brain and it is very difficult to detect shortcomings of accounting system. but their grade pay is very low in comparison to their work performance. Giving less grade pay affects their moral adversly which affects on work performance/efficiency and thus it will be very difficult to achieve the goal of 6th CPC to increase the performance of employees.

    Therefore please look into this matter also and pay some attention to raise their grade pay to 4800/- or higher.

  18. Bhagat Singh - March 7, 2011

    Entitlement of Accommodation.

    1. Please refer to GOI, MOR letter No RB/L & A no 002/2011 dated 27 Jan 2011.

    2. In compliance of recommendations of 6th CPC, Govt has raised the authorisation of accommodation to Railwy employees vide letter under reference. But what happened about other Central Govt employees which is grave disparity with them.

    3. Therefore please consider the entitlement of accommodation to all central Govt employees and issue the order in the same line ie at par immediately.

  19. KR REDDY - March 9, 2011

    the post of ā€œStore Supervisor Grade ā€“IIā€ the minimum prescribed qualification is Diploma in Engineering and I have been recruited on the basis of my qualification in Diploma in Engineering not upgrading/extending the scale Rs 9300-34500 with a grade pay of Rs.4200/= at par with similarly qualified personnel will only create disparity among them and will be a great injustice to me being a Store Supervisor Gde-II.

  20. KR REDDY - March 9, 2011

    1) The post of ā€œStore Supervisor Grade ā€“IIā€ in Border Roads Organisation the minimum prescribed qualification is Diploma in Engineering and I have been recruited on the basis of my qualification in Diploma in Engineering not upgrading/extending the scale Rs 9300-34500 with a grade pay of Rs.4200/= at par with similarly qualified personnel will only create disparity among them and will be a great injustice to me being a Store Supervisor Gde-II.
    2) The 6 th CPC clearly recommending in its report that the pre revised pay scale of 5000-150-8000 for ā€œALL POSTS SIMILARLY CARRYING MINIMUM QUALIFICATION OF DIPLOMA IN ENGINEERINGā€ and advocated strongly that they should be extended this pay scale at least for the fixation of pay. If the department has advocated similar arguments for the ā€œStore Supervisor Grade ā€“IIā€ cadre regarding the direct recruitment qualification for post is Diploma in Engineering, same may be accepted by the Pay Commission and further by the Government and the post have been placed ā€œby defaultā€ in the pre- revised pay scale of 5000-150-8000 at least for the fixation of pay and further placed in the Pay Band of Rs.9300-34800 with a Grade Pay of Rs4200.

  21. S.Kannan - March 9, 2011

    As on today i am getting GP Rs.5400/- in PB-2. If i get a regular Promotion or under MACP what will be my GP in PB-3 ie Rs. 5400/- or Rs.6600/-. (The PB-3 GP Rs. 5400/- cadre is direct entry cadre. We also be promoted to the same cadre in that case what will be the GP? Please explain

    Yours truly

    S.Kannan

  22. S.Kannan - March 9, 2011

    Under CEA Scheme School shoes 1set is eligible.But we have to provide 1 set of Black Shoe and one set of PT shoes ie White shoes.In a Year for my child i have to buy 2 sets of both the shoes. Hence i request efforts may please be made to get at least one set of Black and one set white shoes( PT shoes).
    In Most of the Pvt Schools they are collecting all the money pertaining to uniforms, notes and books as well as tuition fee but giving receipt only for tuition fee that also in letter Pad of the school. we are paying amount in every quarter but they give only a small piece of Paper that the amount for this quarter is received.They never give us receipt for the amount what we Paid only a letter pad with lesser amount say 1/6 of the real amount what we paid is given. if we ask we will give this only accept it unless look a next school for your ward from where You can get the receipt for full amount.Please guide what to do.

  23. rukman - March 14, 2011

    Sir,

    MACP introduced by the Government with the recommendation of Justice Srikrishan is big failure. MACP is not at all acceptable, Blindly accepting MACP is losing of lot of financial benifits of the employees of lower staff. The Grade pays of Payband one is just wiping the tears of the employees. Higher authorities are enjoying more grade pays. Now the market rates are very high, lower staff cannot able to live normal life due to huge increase in prices of food, vegitable and all other daily basic needs. Anamoly committee is also wasting the time and money for meeting they are not giving clear picture to the government. Promotion channels are very remote to the LDC and UDC staff. Government is not at all bother about LDC and UDC’s and their grade pay has been made equial to the supporting staff, when most of LDC and UDC’s are graduate and post graduate.

    Justice SriKrishana Ji, we are also human beings, we are also having family like others, then why you have made so much injustice to the Lower staff. You know very well about the LDC’s and UDC’s pay structure is it posible to maitain a family the pay structure which you have been recommeded.

    Kindly, discuss in the anamaly committee meeting about the grade pay of LDC’s and UDC’s do the justice to the lower staff, due to lack of opertunities and fate they are working in the Lower catogory though having digree and master digree certificates.

  24. rck - March 28, 2011

    I was appointed as W/S Instructor in Govt. of Delhi(Edn. Dept.) on 20-11-79 in pay scale of 5000-8000 (470-750 at that time) and promoted on 22-10-81

    as W/S In-charge in pay scale of 5500-9000. After completion of 24years of service on 20-11-2003, I got 2nd financial up-gradation under ACPS in the pay scale of 6500-10500. As per para no. 3.8.29 furnished at Sr. No. XIX / 3 under section II of Part B of the First Schedule of the Gazette Notification of 6th CPC ; my pay scale 6500-10500 was upgraded to 7450-11500 with grade pay of 4600/- w.e.f. 01-0-2006. Now, I request to clarify that what would my pay band & grade pay be on 01-09-2008 under MACPS & on completion of 30 years of my regular service i.e on 20-11-2009 under MACPS. Thanks a lot, Sirs, please.

  25. rck - March 28, 2011

    I was appointed as W/S Instructor in Govt. of Delhi(Edn. Dept.) on 20-11-79 in pay scale of 5000-8000 (470-750 at that time) and promoted on 22-10-81 as W/S In-charge in pay scale of 5500-9000. After completion of 24years of service on 20-11-2003, I got 2nd financial up-gradation under ACPS in the pay scale of 6500-10500. As per para no. 3.8.29 furnished at Sr. No. XIX / 3 under section II of Part B of the First Schedule of the Gazette Notification of 6th CPC ; my pay scale 6500-10500 was upgraded to 7450-11500 with grade pay of 4600/- w.e.f. 01-0-2006. Now, I request to clarify that what would my pay band & grade pay be on 01-09-2008 under MACPS & on completion of 30 years of my regular service i.e on 20-11-2009 under MACPS. Thanks a lot, Sirs, please.

  26. Subir Kundu - April 12, 2011

    A pathetic comment,

    So much of aggressiveness, distress and agony has been expressed by the LDCs and UDCs for the injustice done to these categories by the VIth CPC and thereafter by introduction of the MACP Scheme. The clerical staff has been placed in such a situation that they are constrained to lead a stressful life, always waiting for the next salary day to come. This clearly indicates that there is no requirement of clerical work now and it has lost gravity and importance. Also it seems that there is a perception that the clerical work can be performed by a Class IV trade employee or by any industrial tradesmen. Well, if that’s the case, I have a wise suggestion – please stop any further recruitment of LDCs completely; this will have two benefits, one – no one’s life will be spoiled by joining a Govt service as LDC and two – the Govt will be able to save its exchequer. Gradually, the strength/holding of the clerical staff will come to an end due to retirement, etc. Then there will be no clerical staff left to express distress or agony and the chapter will be closed for ever.

  27. Nathan N - September 15, 2011

    Administrative Officers Grade III are signatory in many documents and are accountable and responsible, who are placed in the Grade Pay of Rs 4600/-. Whereas the Senior Private Secretaries who are not signatory any of the official documents are placed in the Grade Pay of Rs 4800/- and 5400/-.

    Who will clarify. If anyone can answere please do

  28. D K DHALI - March 13, 2012

    R/Sir
    I am a Junior Works Manager (pre-revised pay scale Rs. 7450-225-13500) in Ordnance Factory Organization selected through UPSC. According to the advt. in the UPSC, the nature of the duties were mentioned as managerial and the post was called ministrial. JWMs are also acts as a head of section (HOS). Then, suddenly 6th CPC made us miserable as the post has been merged with the lower grade i.e., Assistant Foreman(Pre-revised pay scale 6500-11500). The situation made us disheartened as the representation of the upgradation of the scale of JWMs in O.Fys in the pay band PB-2 with grade pay Rs. 4800 and on completion of 4 yrs service G.P Rs.5400 in line with the scale of section officer in the ministry was also turned down. It is our fervent request to re-consider the subject representation to make a parity with the scale of Section Officer and Asstt.Accounts Officer. A large no. of highly qualified engineering graduates are being imparted in the organization through UPSC gets frustated and all the motivation towards the duty got destroyed.
    Once again submitted for kind consideration of our upgradation please for rebuild these young engg graduates to gets charged with new hope and motivation for the benefit of the govt.
    D K Dhali

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