Feedback of Joint Committee meeting on MACP anomalies – NFIR

Feedback of Joint Committee meeting on MACP anomalies held on 27.7.2012 – NFIR

NFIR Latest News : Meeting of the Joint Committee on MACPs Anomalies

National Federation of Indian Railwaymen has uploaded the feedback of the MACP meeting held on today at New Delhi.

As decided in the National Anomaly Committee Meeting held on 17/07/2012, the DOPT held separate meeting with the Leaders of Staff Side at North Block, New Delhi, Room No. 190 on 27/07/2012.

Discussions were held on following issues:-

1. Grant of MACP in the promotional hierarchy:-
The staff side insisted that option be given to individual employees in this regard to facilitate  him/her to opt for availing benefit of financial upgradation.

After discussion it was agreed to examine in depth for finding solution.

2. Date of effect of MACP Scheme:

The desirability of giving effect to the MACP Scheme w.e. f. 01.01.2006 will be examined.

3. Counting of total temporary status Casual Labour Service reckoning 10/20/30 years under MACP Scheme:

Official Side stated that this will be processed separately.

4. Treatment of employees selected under LDCE/GDCE Scheme:
In the light of the instructions issued when the ACP Scheme was introduced.

The same policy be adopted and accordingly orders will be issued. In other words, those inducted through LDCE/GDCE Scheme, such induction may be counted as appointment and will be reckoned as promotion.

5. Problems faced in the identical Grade Pay:
It was agreed to issue instructions for granting additional increment for fixation of Pay in case of promotion to the same Grade Pay.

Instructions in this regard will be issued to Ministry of Railways etc .

6. Financial Upgradation Under MACPs, in the case of staff who joined another unit/organisation on request:
The Staff Side has pointed out that OM dated 01/11/2010 should be suitably Amended covering the staff who were transferred on request on reversion to the Unit/Organisation so that the total service rendered in the previous Unit/Organisation may be counted for MACPs.

It  was agreed to be considered.

7. Extension of benefit of MACPS to an employee appointed in Grade where direct  recruitment element is there while ignoring service and promotion rendered prior to his appointment in that post:

Official Side reiterated that suitable clarification No. 5 of OM dated 09/09/2012 was already issued.

8. Stepping up of Pay of Senior incumbents at par with Junior incumbents as a consequence of  ACP/MACPs
Staff Side has explained the case of gross injustice done, more particularly in the Accounts Department of India” Railways wherein the incumbents who cleared the Appendix examination are drawing less pay than those who could not qualify the said examination and got the benefit of MACPs.

The staff side insisted that this situation is leading to de-motivation among qualified staff and urged for rectifying the anomalies. It was agreed to consider and Ministry of Railways advised to send the proposal

9. Employees who got one promotion prior to 01/09/2008 and completed over two decades of service without benefit of promotion and are denied third ACP under MACPs:
After discussion, official side agreed that is a peculiar situation and assured to take action to rectify the situation. The staff side has insisted that in such cases third ACP should be straight away given to staff from the date subsequent to the date of completion of two decades of service after promotion. Official side appreciated the logic and reasonableness and agreed to considered.

Official Side apPft’Cialcd the logic and reawnablencss and agreed to consider.

10. Modification of recruitment rules particularly in Railways and upgradation granted by abolition of Pay Scale-Implementation of MACPs
The Staff Side explained that in the Railways the lower Pay Scales were abolished and posts were upgraded to the higher Pay Scales with revision of recruitment qualification and designation. In such cases the staff side insisted that entry Grade Pay as a result of upgradation subsequent to abolition of lower Pay Scales should be taken into consideration for reckoning 10/20/30 years of service for granting MACP.

Official side has agreed to obtain detials from Ministry of Railways for issuing appropriate clarification. In the meanwhile, Railway Board will have discussion with the Staff Side separately so that appropritate proposal could be sent to the DoP&T.

11. Placement of staff as a result of upgradation of posts :
The Staff side (NFIR) insisted that such placements should not be considered as promotion for the purpose of grant of financial upgradation under MACP Scheme.

Official side stated that this will be examined.

12. In the course of discussion the Official Side also stated that MACP Scheme should be a fall-back option and the Ministries should conduct Cadre Restructuring for ensuring that the staff could be promoted within the reasonable time i.e. within 10 years. When the Staff Side pointed out that the Ministry of Railways is citing the instructions of Ministry of Finance issued some years back that only one third of the Cadre could be disturbed, for revising the percentages, the Official Side clarified that necessary clarificatory instructions will be issued to the Ministry of Railways etc., so that the Cadre Restructuring can be done without problems.

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9 Responses

  1. A,B, Joshi - August 6, 2012

    I am working in university library in clerical grade (P G 1900) since 1996. i get MACP with pay grade 2000 in sept. 2008. I want to know that the confederation of central govt. employees has demanded, while second meeting was held with NAC in sept.2010 that each individual employee either to retain the old ACP scheme or to switch over to MACP. In respect of the same the d o p t has asked to department to restructure of cadres to secure quicker promotion.

    what is current status in this regard. Kindly, I want to know.

  2. Anil Prakash - August 9, 2012

    It is a welcome move by the National Anomaly Committee Meeting held on 17/07/2012 to examine in depth for finding solution to grand fincancial upgradation on MACP in the promotional hierarchy.

  3. Anil Kumar - August 13, 2012

    Dear Sir

    I joined autonomous organisation in December, 1995 from the post of JAO in the pay scale of Rs. 1640-2900 to the post of AAO in the pay scale of Rs. 2000-3200 on deputation basis. In April, 1996 got regular promotion in my parent deptt. as AAO in the same pay scale. The pay scale was revised by 5th pay commission as Rs. 6500-10500. On 1.4.2000, the autonomous organisation granted promotion as AO in the pay scale of Rs. 7450-11500. I got permanent absorption as AO in the same pay scale. My earlier parent office revised the pay scale of AAO from Rs.6500-10500 to Rs. 7450-11500 w.e.f. 1.1.96 notionally with financial benefits w.e.f. 19.2.2003. On this line, the autonomous orgnisation had also granted pay scale of Rs. 7450-11500 w.e.f. April, 1996. I also got notional increment w.e.f. 1.4.2000 as both the pay scale as AAO and AO were same. I completed 12 years in April, 2008 in the autonomous organisation in the same pay scale i.e. 7450-11500. The autonomous organisation had adopted the ACP scheme and next placement scale was Rs. 8000-13500. Accordingly I applied for grant of financial upgradation w.e.f. april, 2008. The autonomous organisation first refused to consider my request. But after considering the clarifications issued by DOPT, it was ready to consider my case. Now the authorities says that since you have got promotion in April, 2000, you are not eligible to get the financial upgradation under ACP, w.e.f. April, 2008. My question is whether the promotion or placement in the same pay scale is counted as promotion for ACP? Please reply as soon as possible

  4. v madusudan - August 14, 2012

    Dear Sirji,

    Will the Government look into the injustice done to UDC and the so called MACP which has done more damage than beneficial. Government has to take immediate step to rectify this injustice by granting the Grade Pay on Promotional Hierarchy. We hope that the issue will be settled at the earliest without any further delay

  5. Subir Kundu - August 21, 2012

    To,

    The Official/Staff Side Members of the NAC,

    Sirs,

    What I believe is that there can be no amicable solution to the anomaly regarding the grade pay being granted to the clerical staff under the ACP/MACP Scheme on completion of 24 years of service. Therefore, the proposal to extend the option to the clerical staff to choose the grade pay under the ACP or MACP individually in terms of financial benefit is the best, wise and ideal alternative to settlement of this dispute. An early inking and issuance of orders in this regard would be fair respite to the affected clerical staff.

    [Subir Kundu, UDC, Agra]

  6. ravindra b gulrandhe - August 22, 2012

    Grant of MACP in the promotional hierarchy

    grand fincancial upgradation on MACP in the promotional hierarchy.

  7. GOPI CHAND - September 17, 2012

    If a central government employees (CGE) who is appointed on 12.04.1983 in the pay scale of Rs.5,000 – 8,000, completing 24 years of service on 12.04.2007 and is allowed 2nd ACP in the grade pay of Rs. 6,600/- {as per the example/clarification No. 27 (ii) in the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) on MACPS issued by the DoPT on 28th August 2012, thus making him/her eligible to get 3rd MACPS, on completing 30 years service, to the grade pay of Rs. 7,600/- because there is no other grade pay in between Rs. 6,600/- & Rs. 7,600/-. Then why not a CGE who was appointed in the pay scale of Rs.5,500 – 9,000/- and got 2nd ACP, on completing 24 years service prior to 01.09.2008, in the grade pay of Rs. 6,600/- is not given/allowed to get 3rd MACPS, on completing 30 years of service to the grade pay of Rs. 7,600/-

    Sir,
    I am a direct recruit Assistant since June 29, 1974. I was promoted as Section Officer in 1991. After completion of 24 years of service I was granted 2nd ACP in the pay scale of Rs.10,000-Rs.15,600 (Now PB-3 with a grade pay of Rs.6,600/-) with effect from 9.8.1999. I did not derive any benefit (notional or actual) from NFS which was introduced with effect from 03.10.2003, in which SOs with 4 years of service got pay scale of Rs.8,000-Rs.13,500. Hence, NFS is not applicable to me as I was drawing a higher pay (Rs.10,000/-) in a higher pay scale (Rs.10,000-Rs.15,600) from an earlier date (9.8.1999). Please confirm that I am eligible for 3rd MACP, effective from 01.09.2008, in the PB-3 of Rs.15,600-Rs.39,100 with a grade pay of Rs.7,600/- in terms of DOPT’s circular No.35034/3/2008-Estt.(D) dated 9.9.2010. Kindly clarify/reply early. Thanks,

  8. K J Raphy - November 6, 2012

    One employee joined in IA&AD as Clerk /Typist (GP 1900),then promoted as Accountant (GP 2800) and thereafter promoted as Asst Accounts Officer(GP 4800)All these promotions happened within 12 years. On completion of 22 years of service(ie completed 10 years after last promotion as Asst Accounts officer) he has been granted GP 5400.Whether it is regular? The normal Channel of promotion is as follows
    C/T (GP1900) to Accountant (GP2800) to Senior Accountant (GP 4200) to Asst Accounts Officer (GP 4800) to Acconts Officer (GP5400 )

  9. shailesh - November 10, 2012

    sir
    joint as ldc in 1987 3050
    1st acp in 1999 4000-100-6000
    2nd macp in 2008 2800 grade pay
    1st promotion in 2011 no increment and no higher grade pay

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