DOPT Published the Minutes of Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee
F.N0.11/2/2008-JCA
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions
(Department of Personnel & Training)
North Block, New Delhi
Dated the 4th May, 2010
OFFICE MEMORANDUM
Subject: Minutes of the Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 27th March, 2010.
The undersigned is directed to forward a copy of the minutes of the Second Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee held on 27thMarch, 2010 in Conference Hall (Room No. 119), North Block, New Delhi under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Personnel) for information and necessary action.
(Dinesh Kapila)
Deputy Secretary (JCA)
MINUTES OF THE SECOND MEETING OF
NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE HELD ON
27TH MARCH 2010
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The Second meeting of the National Anomaly Committee (NAC) was held on 27th March 2010 in Conference Room No.119, North Block, New Delhi under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Personnel). A list of participants who attended the meeting is annexed.
2.At the outset, the Chairman welcomed the representatives of the Staff Side and Official Side. Referring to the interesting and fruitful discussions held during the first meeting of the NAC on 12th December 2009, the Chairman stated that some progress has been made and stated that action taken on the decisions taken in the first meeting shall be shared with the staff side. The Chairman then suggested that issues pertaining to pensions may be taken up first for discussions as the representatives of the Department of Pension & Pensioners’ & welfare had to attend another meeting, although that meeting had been postponed. The Chairman also informed that the 46th Meeting of the National Council (JCM) has been scheduled to be held on 15th May 2010 under the Chairmanship of Cabinet Secretary. The Chairman also reiterated the resolve of the Government to ensure early resolution of all the anomalies by holding meaningful discussions with the staff side. Thereafter, the Chairman invited the Leader and Secretary of Staff Side to make the opening remarks before moving to the agenda items.
3. Leader of the Staff Side Shri M. Raghaviah thanked the Chairman for convening the second meeting of the National Anomaly Committee. He further stated that employees are anxiously waiting for the NAC to produce results. Referring to the anomaly in the date of next increment, Shri. Raghaviah stated that this anomaly should be removed without any further delay. He further stated that action taken on the minutes of the First meeting of NAC should be discussed. Thereafter, Shri Raghaviah drew the attention of the Committee towards the problems emanating from the modified ACP Scheme and requested for early rectification of the same.
4. Secretary of the Staff Side Shri Umraomal Purohit thanked the Chairman and stated that the report of the 6th Pay Commission is absolutely new and therefore, there are certain concerns which must be addressed suitably. Referring to the issue of change in the definition of anomaly which was raised during the first meeting of the NAG, he stated that the Terms of Reference for the NAC constituted after the 5th CPC were jointly agreed. He further stated that this agreed definition of anomaly was changed after the 6th CPC and the Chairman had assured in the last meeting that this should not lead to any problems. However, another related problem anticipated by the staff side is that the present definition would form the basis for formulating the Terms of Reference of the NAC after the 7th CPC and this could lead to problems at that time. Therefore, while currently there may not be any problem due to deletion of the particular para from the definition of anomaly. but in future there could be some dispute regarding the agreed definition of anomaly as generally, the government works on the basis of precedents. He, therefore, requested that this aspect should be recorded in the minutes of the meeting so as to obviate problems I disputes in future. He then referred to the general recommendation of the 6th CPC that all such allowances, in respect of which there was no specific recommendation, should be doubled. He further stated about the recommendation of 6th CPC to discontinue certain allowances like the Patient Care Allowance and Risk Allowance and to introduce new schemes in lieu thereof in consultation with the staff side. He referred to a specific recommendation of the 6th CPC regarding introduction of the Risk Insurance Scheme to replace the Risk Allowance. He suggested that until the new schemes are formulated by the Government, in consultation with the staff side, such existing allowances should be continued and their rates must be doubled in view of the general recommendation of the 6th CPC. Regarding the suggestion the Chairman to first discuss the issues related to pensions, Shri Purohit stated that the staff side has no objection to the same.Regarding the anomalies in the MACP, Shri Purohit suggested that a Joint Committee comprising of members or the official and staff side may be constituted to thoroughly examine the anomalies in the MACP. The recommendations of the Joint Committee can be placed before the NAC for a final decision in the matter. Referring to the various agenda items before the NAC, Shri Purohit also stated that there is a need to work a little faster. Shri Purohit also drew the attention of the Committee to the fact that CCA has been abolished by the 6th CPC by merging it with the Transport Allowance. He stated that prior to this, CCA was treated as ‘Pay’ for all purposes, particularly for calculation of overtime in respect of industrial workers. He was of the view that these kinds of unintentional problems emanating from the 6th CPC report should not be overlooked. In the last, he once again thanked the Chairman and stated that he was sure that all the anomalies would be resolved under ‘ the leadership of Secretary (P).
5. The Chairman stated that the government also recognise the need for faster resolution of all anomalies. The Chairman agreed to the suggestion for creation of a Joint Committee to look into the anomalies related to MACP. The Chairman while acknowledging the new structure and approach of the report of the 6th CPC, re-iterated the suggestion given by him in the first meeting of NAC that in case certain problems and difficulties are being faced due to insufficient understanding with regard to ecommendations of the report of the 6′th CPC, the same may be brought to the notice of the Department of Personnel & Training so that these could be appropriately addressed and clarifications / explanations may be issued / uploaded on the website of the Department in order to obviate the need for future references on such matters. With respect to change in the definition of the agreed definition of anomaly,the Chairman stated that this aspect had already been recorded in the minutes of the first meeting of the NAC and if needed, the same can again be recorded for posterity that the staff side had taken up this issue in the NAC and it was agreed that it would be the endeavour of the Government to ensure that this change does not lead to any problems now or in the future. Regarding the new schemes to replace some of the allowances like Patient care Allowance and Risk Allowance, the Chairman assured the staff side that it would be the endeavour of the Government to ensure that new schemes are introduced only afler consulting the staff side. Regarding continuation of the risk allowance at old rates till the new Risk Insurance Scheme is finalised, the Chairman agreed that this matter will be examined.
6. Thereafter, the staff side raised the issue relating to the revision of the Fixed Medical Allowance (FMA). ‘The representatives of the Department of Pensions and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that a proposal to revise the FMA has been moved and presently the same is under consideration of the Committee of Secretaries. The Chairman stated the he will take up the matter with the cabinet secretary regarding an early decision on the matter.
7. Thereafter, the anomalies as per the agenda were taken up for discussion:
Item No 9: Anomaly in pension for government servants who retired/died in harness between 1 .1.2006 and 1.9.2008
Director,Department of Pension informed that during the first meeting of the NAC, under this item, the issue of non release of second instalment of arrears to the pensioners was raised. It was agreed that Department of Pension will take necessary steps to sort out the problem. Director, Department of Pension informed that in this connection, Secretary (P) took up the matter with the Secretary, Department of Financial Services and the Department of Pension took up the matter with the concerned authorities and now the problem has been resolved. Regarding the issue of release of life time arrears to the family pensioners, director,Department of Pension informed that suitable instructions in this connection already exist. The Chairman suggested that oncerned instructions should be reiterated to ensure speedy release of life time arrears to family pensioners. The item was treated as closed.
ltem Nos. 15. 16, 17 & 21:- Parity/ modified parity in pension/revised pension/familypension of all pre-1996 retirees with those who retired on or after 01 .01.2006.
The Official Side stated that the matter has been examined in detail on the basis of note given by the Staff Side. However, it has not been found feasible to agree to the demand of the Staff Side as revised pension has been fixed strictly in accordance with the rinciples enunciated by the 6th CPC for the same. Director, Department of Pension further informed that the matter was taken up with the Department of Expenditure and it has been decided that the modified parity adopted will stand as the same method was adopted after the implementation of the recommendations of the 5th CPC. However, even after a prolonged discussion in the matter, there was difference of opinion between the Official and the Staff Side. In view of this deadlock, the Chairman stated that the view point the staff side has been understood by the official side and that the official side will take a stand in the matter after taking into account the views expressed by the staff side. He then suggested moving on to the next agenda item.
ltem No.18: Anomaly in Pension of those retiring within the first 9 months of the year 2006..
Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued to allow the last pay drawn as the basis of pension calculation for those who retired on or after 1 .1,2006. As the anomaly has already been resolved, it was decided to treat the item as closed.
Item No.19: Revision of pension of those who retired during the period 1.1.2006 to 1.9.2008.
Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued to the effect that the benefit of full pension on retirement after 20 years of service has also been extended to employees who retired between 1.1.2006 to 1.9.2008. As the anomaly has already been resolved, it was decided to treat the item as closed.
ltem No.22:- Revision of pension of those who are receiving two pensions.
Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that suitable instructions have already been issued vide O.M. dated 12th 0ctober 2009 to the effect that in respect of persons receiving two pensions, the floor ceiling of basic pension of Rs.3500/- per month shall apply individually. Therefore, it was decided to treat the item as closed.
ltem No.23:- Special provision for those who retired on or after 1.1.2006 but retained pre revised scale of pay.
Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that although such a case has not come to the notice of that Department, however, the matter has been taken up with the Ministry of Finance and the same is under consideration. After detailed discussion, it was decided that the
staff side will try to provide specific cases where problems are being faced due to retention of prerevised pay scale. It was also decided to look into the modalities adopted in such cases after the implementation of the recommendations of the 5′th CPC.
ltem Nos.24.25 & 26:-Commutation of pension / additional pension
The staff side stated that the additional amount of pension commutation due to retrospective revision of pay of post 31” December 2005 retirees, should be done on the basis of the then existing (old) commutation table whereas the government has decided that this should be done on the basis of the New Commutation Table recommended by the 6thCPC. The staff side further stated that this dispensation is anomalous and the then existing table should only be used to calculate the amount of the additional commutation of pension becoming due on account of the revision of pay scales. The official side stated that the 6th CPC has
recommended that if a pensioner opts for additional commutation of pension due to retrospective revision of pay, then the amount of additional pension commutation should be calculated on the basis of the New Commutation Table. It was further clarified by the official side that if the concerned pensioner did not opt for additional commutation, then the issue of using the new or old table would not come into being. Therefore, the alternative of not opting for the additional commutation is already available to the concerned pensioners if they feel that the revised commutation table is not favourable to them. Moreover, the official side also clarified that as per the scheme of things approved by the cabinet, the revised commutation table is to be used for calculating only the future commutation of pension and will not be applied to the past commutation. In respect of* pensioner who has already commuted the pension, the revised commutation table shall be used only to compute the amount of pension that has become additionally commutable due to retrospective implementation of the revised pay scales. After detailed discussion on the matter, it was decided that as the new dispensation has been formulated strictly in accordance with the recommendations of the 6′th CPC However, there was no consensus on the item and it was decided to move to the next agenda item.
ltem No 36; Income criteria in respect of parent and widowed/ divorced/ unmarried daughters.
The staff side demanded as everyone does not get Dearness Allowance (DA), the limit of Rs.35001- plus DA should be converted into a fixed amount for deciding the income criteria in respect of parent and widowed1 divorced1 unmarried daughters. After detailed discussion, it was agreed that the official
side will re-examine the issue.
ltem No.48- Restoration of commutation of pension after 12 years instead of 15 years.
Director, Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare informed that after examining the matter in detail, the 6th CPC has recommended that the existing 15 years period for restoration of pension should be maintained. However, the staff side was of the opinion that the commuted portion of pension is actually recovered by the Government within 12 years and therefore there is a need to have a relook in the matter. The staff side also referred to their calculations in this regard and requested the Official Side to reconsider the matter. After detailed discussion, it was decided that Official Side will re-examine the calculation given by the Staff Side and also the calculations used by the 6′th CPC.
ltem Nos.54 to 59
The official Side informed that item nos. 54 to 59 relate to anomalies pertaining to Union Territory of Puducherry. It was further informed by the Official side that the administration of Puducherry has constituted an Anomaly Committee at the local level. Therefore, it was agreed that these items may be
dropped from the agenda of the National Anomaly Committee. However, the staff side also stated that the Anomaly Committee constituted by the Administration of Puducherry should be on the pattern of the departmental anomaly committees and staff side should also be given due representation in the same.
ltem Nos.52 & 53
The Official Side informed that these two items relate to anomalies pertaining to the Union Territory of Andaman & Nicobar Islands and therefore suggested that the same may also be dropped from the agenda of NAC. The Staff Side agreed with the suggestion subject to the condition that some
mechanism should be evolved at the local level to discuss these anomalies. The Official Side agreed to take up the matter with the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Aqenda Item Nos. 1 to 4 & 5(iii)- Anomaly in Pay Fixation in case of merger of various Pay Scales.
The Staff Side reiterated their demand that since the pre-revised Pay Scales of Rs.5000-8000/-, Rs.5500-9000/- were merged with the pay scale of Rs.6500-10500, the pay of the incumbents holding the pay scales of Rs.5000-8000/- and Rs.5500-9000 should have been fixed with effect from 1.1.2006 by applying the multiplying factor of 1.86 at Rs.6500/-. The Official Side informed that incumbents in the pre revised pay scale of Rs.6500-10500 have been granted Grade Pay of Rs.4600/- and hence now, there is no justification for this demand. The staff side, however, stated that it would be incorrect to presume that the anomaly has been resolved by granting grade pay of Rs. 4600 to employees in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 6500-10500. The staff side stated that pre-revised pay scales of Rs 5000-8000/- and Rs 5500- 90001- have been merged with the pre-revised pay scale of Rs 6500-10500/- and therefore, employees in these pay scales should be given the minimum of Rs 6500/- multiplied by 1.86 as basic pay in the pay band.
Agenda Item No.5- Revised Pay Rules
(i) Regarding finalisation of option to be given by the employees for the purpose of pay fixation, it was informed by the representatives of the Department of Expenditure that matter regarding delegation of powers to the administrative Ministries/ Departments to allow the revised option is under consideration.
(iv) Regarding anomaly in fixation of pay between direct recruits and promotees, the Staff Side reiterated that while applying Rule 8 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, the pay of direct recruits and new entrants is fixed at a higher stage when compared to the existing employees who were promoted in the same grade. The Staff Side demanded that this anomaly should be rectified by incorporating a provision that in case after 1.1.2006, if a promotee’s pay is getting fixed at a stage lower than that of a direct recruit as given in Section 2 of the First Schedule of the CCS (RP) Rules, then the pay of the promotee should be fixed at the same stage as that of a direct recruit/ new entrant so that the existing employees’ pay is protected at par with the pay given to a new entrant. The Staff Side referred to the orders issued by) the Ministry of Railways for stepping up of the pay of a senior employee who is after promoted after 1.1.2006 and if his / her pay is fixed at a stage less than that of a junior employee who is recruited after 1.1.2006 and requested that Department of Expenditure should issue similar order/clarification in respect of employees of other Ministries/ Departments. The Official Side, however, was of the opinion that such orders should be issued only by the concerned Ministries/ Departments after seeking approval of the Department of Expenditure. Representatives of the Department of Expenditure also informed that the order issued by the Ministry of Railways is not applicable to all the cases and also that the same is applicable only in certain cases subject to fulfilment of certain conditions. Therefore, Representatives of the Department of Expenditure were of the view that a general order in this regard might create more confusion and hence it would be prudent to deal with the issue on case to case basis. In response to the suggestion of the staff side to re-examine the matter, representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that the matter has already been examined and in cases, where the conditions of stepping up are met, there is no difficulty. However, in cases, where certain conditions are not met, it may not be possible to accommodate the demand of the staff side with the broad principles envisaged by the 6′th CPC in this regard. The staff side than stated that as per the relevant provisions of the Fundamental Rules, anybody who is promoted, his / her pay cannot be fixed at a stage lower than the minimum of the pay scale in which he /she has been promoted. The staff side further stated that any person, who is appointed afresh to a post, is normally appointed at the minimum of that pay scale. Therefore, whatever pay has been prescribed for a direct recruitee, has to be treated as the minimum of that particular post in the concerned pay band. On this basis, the staff side stated that pay of a promotee should not be fixed lower than that of a direct recruitee in a particular pay band. The representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that as a general preposition, this is not in line with the scheme of things envisaged and implemented as result of the recommendations of the 6th CPC. Therefore, agreeing with the demand of the staff side would mean departing from the general recommendations of the 6′h CPC and therefore additional information is required before taking any decision on this matter. In this regard the staff side contended that it is a question of relevant Fundamental Rules and not regarding the recommendations of the 6th CPC. The Staff Side insisted that provisions of the Fundamental Rules are statutory and therefore, they are above the recommendations of the 6′h CPC and would prevail over them. Representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that as per Rule 15 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, the provisions of CCS (RP) Rules 2008 shall prevail in case there is any inconsistency between these rules and Fundamental Rules and therefore, the contention of the Staff Side regarding inconsistency with the Fundamental Rules and provisions regarding fixation of pay on promotion is not correct. After a prolonged discussion on the matter, it was decided that the Official Side will re-examine the matter.
(v) Regarding the anomaly relating to Rule 9 of the CCS (RP) Rules, 2008, concerning the date of next increment, the Staff Side reiterated their demand that employees whose date of next increment falls between 1st February to 1st June may be given an increment, as a onetime measure, in the pre revised pay scales on 1.1.2006 as has already been done in respect of employees whose next date of increment was 1.1.2006. The representatives of the Department of Expenditure stated that it is important to first examine the repercussions of granting an increment w.e.f 1. 1. 2006 in the pre revised pay scale because such a decision may eventually lead to certain other anomalies. After a long discussion, it was agreed that the Official Side would re- examine the matter and either suitable clarification in this regard will be issued before the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee or if there is a need, the Department of Expenditure shall discuss the matter again with the representatives of the Staff Side.
(vii) The issue regarding temporary status casual labourers was discussed. The Staff Side stated that the temporary status casual labourers should be imparted the requisite training and granted grade pay of Rs.1800/- w.e.f. 1.1.2006. In this connection, the Official Side informed that the Department of Personnel & Training has already taken up the matter with all Ministries/ Departments and information has been called from all Ministries / Departments regarding the number of temporary status casual labourers and the proposals relating to three Ministries/ Departments have already been cleared. It was also informed that no proposal of any Ministry/ Department is pending with the Department of Personnel & Training. Therefore, the required action has already been initiated in this regard. Agenda Item No.47: Date of Annual Increment in EOL cases The Staff Side stated that after the implementation of the recommendations of the 6′h CPC, the date of annual increment in respect of all the employees has been fixed as 1st July every year. In this regard, the Staff Side drew attention towards a clarification given by the Department of Personnel & Training to the Ministry of Defence that in case of qualifying service of less than six months has been rendered between 1st January and 30′ June of every year on account of EOL, this will have the effect of postponing one’s increment to 1′ July of next year. The Staff Side stated that this is quite an anomalous situation and requested that this anomaly should be removed at the earliest. After a detailed discussion on this subject, it was agreed that if an employee has rendered minimum of six months of qualifying ’service during a particular year, he or she should be entitled to get the annual increment on 1st July. It was also agreed that Official Side would issue appropriate instructions in this regard at the earliest.
8. In the end, the chairman thanked the members of the staff side for their help and cooperation for a rigorous and fruitful discussion. The Chairman reemphasised that the staff side should proactively share with the official side the queries about the report of the 6th CPC so that explanatory notes / clarifications etc. could be prepared and uploaded on the website of the Department of Personnel and Training. The Chairman also requested the Staff Side to quickly forward the names of the representatives of the staff side to be nominated as members in the Joint Committee on MACP so that the order regarding constitution of the Joint Committee could be issued. The Chairman then suggested that the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee could be convened in the last week of June 2010. The staff side agreed with this suggestion.
| No | Â OFFICIAL SIDE | STAFF SIDE |
| 1 | Shri P.K. Sharma, Addl. Member (Staff), Min. of Railways |
1. Shri M.Raghavaiah, Leader |
| 2 | Shri C.B. Paliwal, Joint Secretary, DOPT |
2. Shri U.M. Purohit, Secretary |
| 3 | Smt. Madhulika P. Sukul, JS (Pers), Dlo Expenditure |
3. Shri Rakhal Das Gupta, Member |
| 4 | Shri Ramesh Kumar, Joint Secretary & AFA, Min. of Defence |
4. Shri R.P.Bhatnagar, Member |
| 5 | Shri D.M. Gautam, Ex. Dir. (Pay Commission-I), Ministry of Railways, (Railway Board) |
5. Shri Guman Singh, Member |
| 6 | Smt. Anjali Goyal Ex. Director, Min. of Railways |
6. Shri C.Srikumar, Membe |
| 7 | Shri Hari Krishan, Director, Minism of Railways |
7. Shri S.K. Vyas, Member |
| 8 | Shri Raj Kumar, Director, Deptt. of Posts |
8. Shri Ch.Sankara Rao, Member |
| 9 | Shri Surender Kumar, Asstt. Director General, Deptt. of Posts |
9. Shri R.Srinivasan, Member |
| 10 | Shri Raj Singh, Director, Deptt. of Pensions |
10. Shri K.K.N. Kutty, Member |
| 11 | Smt. Tripti P. Gho’sh Director, Dlo Pensions |
1 1. Shri S.G. Mishra, Member |
| 12 | Shri Alok Saxena, Director (IC), Deptt. of Expenditure |
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| 13 | Smt. Simmi Nakra, Director (P&A), DOPT |
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| 14 | Smt. Rita Mathur, Director (Pay), DOPT |
- |
| 15 | Shri Dinesh Kapila, Deputy Secretary (JCA), DOPT and Member Secretary, National Anomaly Committee |
- |
| 16 | Shri Ravi Kant, Section Officer (SR), D/o Posts |
- |
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This means that none of the demands of staff side has been agreed by the Govt. Even the much hyped issue of grant of increments for those with date of increment between Feb and June 2006, the issue is in Limbo now. I wonder on what basis an impression was created earlier that this demand had been almost met.
Secondly, does the staff side agree that FRs have now been done away with?
It is surprising that even after implementation of VIth pay Commission a reference and criteria to old scales are still prevalent. Whereas it was envisaged in the VIth pay Commission that the old scales shall be done away with!!
1) Merger of 3 scales of pay – 5000, 5500 and 6500 has already been announced. Now there is again a segregation of Grade pay of Rs. 4600 within the pay band ? I feel all these should be given equal Pay Band and equal Grade Pay. why the differentiation again ? it will roll back to the previous condition.
2) No clarification yet on Railway Pass Rules after Pay Commission. Its 2 years and its high time the officials diverted their attention to this issue and address it accordingly. The old pay scales and old criteria is still be used for issue of Passes. LTC in all other government sectors have already been updated and prescribed with new notifications in this regard.
3) There are no discussions being held on Child Care Leave which has been announced by the Government, and no implementations have been made. Its is recommended to consider to release CCL from being connected to any other kind of leave and grant it unconditionally, as was proposed originally, without linking it to Earned leave and maintain its sanctity as was proposed. The purpose and intention of this is purely child care and relief to working women employees. Its IMPERATIVE to take action on this issue to give it an ultimatum. The present notifications are not adequate to cater to the needs of the working women. Just policing the issue is not working towards its implementation.
LS.
Aqenda Item Nos. 1 to 4 & 5(iii)- Anomaly in Pay Fixation in case of merger of various Pay Scales.
As the pre-revised scales 5000-8000.5500-9000 have beeen merged with pre-revised scale 6500-10000,so employees in this pre-revised scale should be granted grade pay 4600 at least because 6500-10000 has now been granted grade pay 4600
what about counting of casuallabour service for pensionery benefit
please tell me, what is going on fast track committee recommendation.
who is bottlleneck for the implementation?.
what will next to do?.
all the JCMs pl.answer to those who are lossing their feture and service to next higher post.
With introduction of lst july as date of increment in all cases, pension of those retiring on 30th June shall be calculated after adding one increment to their pay as they complete 1 year after drawal of the last annual increment. Would the staff side kindly raise this issue and get necessary orders issued.
What is FMA to central govt. pensioners .Is it to be paid
alongwith pension .Is it payable to all pensioners.Pl. clarify..
Regards,
S N GUPTA
Seriously granting 4600 GP to few employees is creating discrimination within their own employees & the same should be rectified early. THANKS
Sub: Regulation of Pension in the case of an employee of Central Autonomous body appointed on immediate absorption basis in Central Government service.
An employee having 17 years of service in a permanent capacity in a Central Government Autonomous body (Pensionable service- following CCS(Pension Rules,1972)), submitted technical resignation from the Central Autonomous body and joined the Central Government service in August 1989 on immediate permanent absorption basis.
For the service under the Central Autonomous body, he was granted pro-rata pension and gratuity from the Pension Fund constituted and maintained by the Autonomous body. In accordance with the option available at that time, he drew 100 % lumpsum payment in lieu of pension. The employee is therefore not entitled to count the qualifying service under the Autonomous body as qualifying service under the Central Government for pension. On completion of 15 years, one-third of the pension was restored to him.
The officer has now completed 22 years of qualifying service under the Central Government service and is retiring. As per the latest orders, issued by the Government of India based on the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission Report, those who have completed 20 years of qualifying service is eligible for full pension at 50 % of the Average emoluments or the last pay + Grade Pay, which ever is higher.
Is he not eligible for the full pension from the Central Government Office as he has completed more than the minimum qualifying service of 20 years in the Central Government
OR
Is there any specific orders/Rule for restricting it or linking it to the pension he was granted for the pension received from the Autonomous body.
marmenon@yahoo.com
As the pre-revised scales 5000-8000.5500-9000 have beeen merged with pre-revised scale 6500-10000, therefore, the employees are in pre-revised scales 5000-8000 & 5500-9000, atleast grade pay 4600 may be given to them w.e.f. 01.01.2006
People who got promoted from prerevised scales of Rs.5000 or Rs.55/- to Rs.6500/ are now again put on the same place. After the merger of Rs.500/ and Rs.5500 with Rs.6500, there should be some differentiate in granting the grade pay,particularly while calculating the MACP. Members of the Staff Associations must fight for this legitimate demand.
I joined an autonoumus body under MHW, GOI from 25.05.2007 and prior to that working i was working on contrcutal basis with a PSU of Punjab Govt under the department of Agriculture created by an act of parliament and having shareholding in 50% each to Punjab Govt and by a PSU of Central Govt (100% sharholding with central govt). My previous services are pensionable at par with pension scheme of applicable to Govt employess recruited prior to 01.01.2004. Now clarify me that whrather i am eligible for covering under old scheme of pension applicable as per CCS (Pension)Rules 1972 or not
Sir,
Any body can clear me why 6 CPC has downgraded LDC and UDC as a grade D staff whearas in all government office all LDC and UDC have more responsibility and doing more works.
sir/Madam,
Date of thirt Annual Anomaly Committee Meeting which scheduled to be held in July.2010 may please be intimated. If meeting has been held, outcome of meeting(minutes) may plase be intimanted. Status of rule for Steping up of pay of senior to junior at par in same pay scale may also be intimatd.
Thanking you.
I joined As Stenographer in Central Government in 1982. On introduction of ACP Scheme, I was granted 1st ACP in August, 1999 in the scale of Rs.5000-8000. On completion of 24 years regular service and before implementation of 6CPC I was granted 2nd ACP in the scale of Rs.5500-9000 w.e.f. 1.7.2006. On the implemntation of 6CPC, on the pay fixation I was granted one increment in the form of ACP w.e.f. 1.7.2006 but audit party from Pay & Accounts Office have mentioned in my Service Book that benefit of pay fixation will not be given as the merger of scales. And our office have recovered more Rs.8000/- from my second instalment of arrear. Should I not be granted next Grade pay i.e. 4600 w.e.f. 1.7.2006 in the form of ACP as I was granted next higher scale of Rs.5500-9000 w.e.f. 1.7.2006. Please clarify.
Thanking you
Regarding the change in the date of next increment in 6th CPC. How much time is required for the Department of Expenditure to discuss. Already the employees whose date of increment was 1 Feb are punished without committing any mistake. Because date of increment is postponed only if one is to be punished. It was mentioned that orders will be released before Jun 2010.
If a railway employee retired on compulsory retirement after complication of above 22 years qualifying service as on 02.01.1997 i.e. compulsorily retirement effected date.He was long unauthorised absent.Competent authority given decision that employee is eligible for all pensionerry benefits. At the time of comp.retirement he was in pay scale Rs.5000-8000 (rsrp) and his last basic pay for Calculation of Average Emolument was Rs.1290 for two month, Rs.1400 for three month in 4th CPC and Rs.5000 for five month in break period. As per last Ten month Average Emolument his pension comes Rs.1379. I want to know what amount he was eligible for Pension/Family Pension Rs.1500 i.e. 30% of last basic or Rs.1379 as per Average Emolument. Please give me guidline for settle this case, his case is pending till date.
18. ARUP CH. SINHA – July 26, 2010
I HAVE BEEN CONTINUIG MY SERVICE IN ENGINEERING SECTION SINNCE 1988AND GOT PROMOTION ON 1991 BUT JOINED ON 1994.STILL NOW I AM IN THE SAME POST IN THE PAY SCALE RS.5000-8000/.IF THERE IS NO STAGENATION IN PROMOTION I EASILY WOULD BE PROMOTED TO THE SCALE RS 7450/,SO THAT RS.500O-8000/,5500-9000/&6500-10500 SHOULD BE MERGED IN THE SAME POST AND BE UPGRADED TO RS.4600/GRADE PAY WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN RECOMMENDED BY SIXTH CPC.THIS TYPE TRAGEDY WUOLD BE SOLVED OF SO MANY STAFF MEMBERS IN THIS WAY.
As per clause 3.1.14 of the 6th Pay commission report pre-revised scales of 4500-7000 (for UDC and Head clerks is to be merged with the pre-revised scales of 5000-8000, 5500-9000 and 6500-10500. In the new scales it has been clearly mentioned that all the above mentioned scales will be placed in Pay Band 9300-34800 with Grade Pay of Rs.4200/- in Pay Band 2. Kindly clarify the same. Some of the departments / establishments are not following the same, can you please let me know if any specific circular / memorandum in this regard have been issued by the DOPT? If, not, kindly take up the matter with the DOPT so that all the employees in the pre-revised scale of 4500-7000 can be benefited.
Thanks and regards,
hoping for an early reply,
Vishal
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Vishal Sharma
As per clause 3.1.14 of the 6th Pay commission report pre-revised scales of 4500-7000 (for UDC and Head clerks is to be merged with the pre-revised scales of 5000-8000, 5500-9000 and 6500-10500. In the new scales it has been clearly mentioned that all the above mentioned scales will be placed in Pay Band 9300-34800 with Grade Pay of Rs.4200/- in Pay Band 2. Kindly clarify the same. Some of the departments / establishments are not following the same, can you please let me know if any specific circular / memorandum in this regard have been issued by the DOPT? If, not, kindly take up the matter with the DOPT so that all the employees in the pre-revised scale of 4500-7000 can be benefited.
Thanks and regards,
hoping for an early reply,
Vishal
The issue of delaying the declaration of the date of next increment for those whose date of increment is from February to June is PAINFUL. Hoe long will this PUNISHMENT be inflicted for no fault of ours–a general plea to the PM or FM to expedite process of issuing orders.The festival season is nearing !
Only LDCs and UDCs have been discriminated by this VIth pay commission outcome. Even class IV peon have been upgraded. Now Assistants/stenographers who are initially given 4200 grade pay have been upgraded once again to 4600 grade pay UDCs have not been upgraded inspite of great gap between the grade pay of UDCs and its immediate above cadre posts. Anomaly is being created due to change of grade pay from 4200 to 4600 without taking effect of increase in lower level staff i.e.LDCs and UDCs grade pay which are placed at very low level from 1900-2400-2800 as compare to other grade pay. Is there any file/reference pending or under process for the change of grade pay for these poor chaps! would some one try to bring smiles for our pray for justice. thanks
I would like to highlight a glaring injustice done to the post of Deputy Secretary in the Central Secretariat Service in granting new pay scales to this post and its inclusion to grade PB-3 as compared to the post of Director. The 6th Pay Commission has recommended a new pay scale of Rs. 15,600 â 39,100 to the post of Deputy Secretary and Director in the Central Sectt. Services as against their Pre-revised Pay Scales of Rs. 12,000-375-16,500 and Rs. 14,300 -400- 18,300 respectively.. However, the Committee of Secretaries has revised the Pay Scale of Director in the Central Secretariat Services to that of Rs. 37,400 â 67,000 from Rs. 16,500 -39,100 and revised the grade pay to Rs. 8700/- from Rs.7600/-. And also the post of Director was included in Grade PB-4, whereas no such change was recommended in respect of the post of Deputy Secretary.
2, I would like to bring to your kind notice some of the facts which would highlight as to how a big anomaly has been created and how much injustice done to the post of Deputy Secretary in granting lower Pay Scale, lower Grade Pay than that of the post of Director and also by downgrading it to level grade PB-3:-
a) The Post of Director was initially created as Selection Grade Post to provide better promotional Avenues to the Deputy Secretaries of the Central Secretariat Services who are Stagnated at the maximum of their Pay Scale and are not likely to be promoted as Joint Secretaries till their retirement. But in the course of time, with the intake of officers of other services on deputation on both these posts, the purpose for which the post of Director was created was eluded. .
b) In the office hierarchical order, though the Director is senior to Deputy Secretary, but the post of Deputy Secretary and Director, both enjoy equal powers, duties and responsibilities in their sphere of their official status. A Deputy Secretary cannot be placed to function under the Director. As against the post of Director or Deputy Secretary either can be posted. For their functions and responsibilities, both are responsible to their immediate boss i.e. the Joint Secretary. A Joint Secretary is only empowered to write Confidential reports of the Deputy Secretary and not the Director. Moreover, no separate duties have been specified in the Office Manual for the post of Director.
c) The post of Deputy Secretary is a middle level Group âAâ Gazette Post which has been clubbed with Group âBâ Gazette Post and down graded to PB-3 level whereas the same level post of Director has been clubbed with senior level posts and graded as PB-4. Denying the similar/higher scale to the post of Deputy Secretary as that of Director, is considered to be most irregular and unjustified when both the posts are of equal level and have the same duties and responsibilities.
d) The pay Scale of Rs 16500-39100 is too low and does not match to the pre-revised scale and status of Deputy Secretary. It is worth to consider that the Basic Pay of Deputy Secretary has been raised by Rs. 4,500/- whereas the basic pay of the Director has been raised by Rs. 23,100/- which is almost 6 (six) times more than that of the post of Deputy Secretary when both posts have assigned same duties and responsibilities. No justification is available for this big gap.
e) Prior to implementation of 6th Pay Commission, the Posts of Lt. Col. and Col. in the Army were equal to the Post of Deputy Secretary and Brigadier is equal to the Post of Director. The 6th Pay Commission granted pay scale of Rs. 16500-39100 to Lt. Col. and was included in Grade PB-3 as that of the Deputy Secretary. The Pay Scale of Lt. Col. has been revised to Rs.37,500/- with grade pay of Rs.1200/- and has now been included in grade PB-4 after big resentment shown by the Army. This has not been done in the case of Deputy Secretary who is equal to the posts of Lt.Col. and Col. in the Army. This will certainly affects the morale, efficiency and functioning of Deputy Secretaries in the Defence Ministry and other Ministries in relation to attached and subordinate offices.
3. The proposal to the revision pay scale of the post of Deputy Secretary and its inclusion to Grade PB-4 has not been accepted recently by the Ministry of Finance. The views and justification given in sub-paras (a) to (e), particularly at sub-paras (b) and (d) above, do not appear to have taken into consideration while considering the proposal. This has spread wide resentment among the Deputy Secretaries of the CSS. This is going to affect their efficiency, functioning and morale in the Secretariat in case Deputy Secretary is posted to a post earlier held by a Director. This will also create an administrative inconvenience to decide whether a Deputy Secretary or Director be posted to a post earlier held by either of these.
4. It is, therefore, requested that the pay scale of Rs . 15600-39100 assigned to Deputy Secretary may please be revised Rs. 37,400-6700 with grade pay the post may please be upgraded and included in grade PB-4 in order to maintain equality and equal level to that of the post of Director and Lt. Col. and Col. in the Army and equivalents.
5. This matter being general nature and important issue which effects officers of the rank of Deputy Secretaries in the entire Secretariat, may please be included in the agenda of National Counsil (JCM) meeting for discussion and taking a justifiable view.
sir,
I’m s.c. mukherjee,udc of institute of forest productivity,(an autonomous council of ministry of environment & Forests, govt of india, indian Council of Forestry Research & Education, Dehradun beg most respectfully to state that I got acp after completion of 24 yrs. of service and my pay was fixed at 5000-8000 from 4000-6000. after 6th cpc came into effect, my organization fixed my pay 5200-20000 and gr.pay 2800. I submitted my representation, again they refixed my pay 9300-34800 with gr. pay 4200/- . since i’ve opted in macp 6.1(b), my arrear of 6th cpc w.e.f. 1-1-2006 to 1-2-2007 have been deducted, is it justified. i’ve lost a lot of money in my arrear. please confirm me to my email no.
It is reminded with greate concern,that the proposal to give one increment,to those employees whose increment falls on Feb-June 2006 in the pre revised scale of pay to clear the greate anomoly in the pay fixation has not yet been cleared so far,even though it was fully convincing and the dead line fixed for submitting the revised option is 31-12-2010. The Anomoly Committee may kindly awakened at least on this issue, with out further loss of time
Sir,
Olden days clerks had very good respect for their job. Clerks were known as Babujies and the clerical job was dignified as White Collar job. But now after 3rd CPC, the clerks who are the back bone of Administration of all organization/department of Govt. of India, have been Degraded as a neglected category and it has been proved by Govt. of India in the last three Pay Commissions by equating many lower posts with LDC. To maintain the White Collar job, the poor Clerks are struggling with their
meagre salaries. Now a Peon grade which carrying the GP of Rs.1800/- is better than a LDC. Peon gets uniforms, shoes & washing allowance per month in addition to salary. So, how a clerk who have to interact with
various levels of officials & public, can maintain better than a Peon with the difference of Rs.100/- in Grade Pay to maintain the decorum of office.
2. If we see in private sector, their administration/HR Staff are having good respect and hand sum salary. Govt. of India is only keeping educational qualifications at par with private sector and asking minimum qualification 10+2 or degree with additional knowledge of Computer, Typing etc. for the post of a clerk. In postal department of Govt. of India, LDC post has been redesignated as Postal Assistant (PA) with the grade pay of Rs.2400/- in PB-1, similarly in Indian Railways also pay of clerks, is different. In Certral Sectt. Service, an Assistant is getting the GP of Rs.4600/-. Whereas, other than CSS/HQrs Departments, the grade of Office Supdt. who does Supervisory job as good as Section Officer, is getting GP Rs.4200/- in PB-2 only. This disparity is again violation Chapter 3:1:14 of the recommendation of 6th CPC and also constitutional
rights of equality. Why this kind of discreminations in pay of clerks under a single umbrella of Govt. of India.
3. In view of the above, I appeal to all the Association especially all associations made for clerks to stand firmly to sort out the pay scale issue of clerks, so that clerks would also gets equal pay for equal work as in the case of Master Craftsman Grade Pay has been enhanced from Rs.2800/- to Rs.4200/-. I also make an appeal to the Concerned Authorities of Govt.
of India to redesignate the clerical cadre as under, as common posts in Central Civil Services :-
a) Merge LDC & UDC as Office Assistant with GP of Rs.4200/- in PB-2.
b) Merge Asstt & Office Supdt. as Executive Assisitant with GP Rs.4600/-.
c) Admin Officer should get the GP of Rs.4800/- in PB-2 as in CSS for SO.
4. The above statement, I am giving out of my 30 years of long Experience in Govt. of India Service as clerk. Most of the departments are not having promotional avenue for clerks according to the Recruitment Rules. So that, clerks may have to depend on ACP/MACP Schemes. As such, in the present scenario, if a LDC with GP of
Rs.1900/-, gets the GP Rs.2800/-only on completion of 30 years service without promotion. Therefore, enhancement of Grade Pay of Clerical Cadre as given above in Para 3(a) to (c) is very much essential atleast at this stage because Govt. is neglecting Clerks from last three decades.
Thanks, Jai Hind. SOMI
Sir
Is there any order issued by DOPT regarding 1800/- grade pay to temporary status casual labour who works since 1.9.1993. kindly mail please.
ndssram@gmail.com
Is there any order issued by DOPT regarding rates of transporation of personal effects, shall automatically increase by 25% when DA authomatically payable on the revised pay structure goes up by 50 %. kindly mail please.
In this regard of Ministry of Finance had already issued orders to increase by 25 % on transportation of personal effects.
I had joined as steno grade-D (Direct Recruit) in the Ministry of Urban Development on 21.3.1986. After 20 year, I was promoted as ad-hoc PA vide DOPT orders dated 12.10.2006 with the direction to report to Min. of Science & Technology. Due to non-availability of substitute my department (Min. of Urban Development) relieved me on 22.1.2007. Accordingly, I joined the Min. of S&T on 25.1.2007 (the next working day). Meanwhile, two junior PAs ( one through Departmental Exam and one direct) had joined in November & December 2006. Both are junior from me as per Common Seniority List. My next increment was due September 2007. But as I had joined on 25.1.2007, no increment was given to me in the year 2007. After September 2006, the next increment was given to me in July, 2008. Although my juniors got the increment of July 2007 and getting higher salary from me. My date of joining the service is 21.3.1986 and date of my junior (direct) is 27.3.1989. Now the 2nd MACP is also given to all of us but both my juniors are still drawing higher pay than me. It is also noticeable that there was no financial benefit on this ad-hoc promotion. Is this really a promotion to me ? Are they become my seniors for ever ? What is my fault in relieving 24 days late ? Due to loss of one increment, I feel this is a demotion after 20 years of service. Is there any solution of my problem? Am I entitled for the getting increment in 2007 or this is a case of stepping up ?
Dear sir
is there dopt odrse 1-9-1993 to1800 pay moste seniyear’s (ts casual labour’s )new pramotion issu.
lateste new temparare casual labour post vacence
Kindly mail please sir
mssankar13@gmail.com
I am Goyal from C-DAC Delhi. A new rule has come into effect that all CC & GBC ( Continuing Contract and Grade Based Contract ) Staff of CDAC to be converted into Consolidated pay from July 2012. This is applicable to all the C-DAC Centres irrespective of their projects. Members will loose lots of benefits (Eg. Engineers grade will be into project engineer 1 with a pay of Rs. 30,000/- per month). Currently they are getting Rs. 40,000 + PF + DA + Medical Alowance etc.
Employees will be loosing benefits such as Gratuity, PF contribution , Medical, Tuition Fees, CGHS. It is likely an Engineer Grade is loosing Rs.300000-400000 Per year.
This rule is applied in C-DAC Delhi on 5 employees and they are about to fight in Court.
Source : Govering Council Meeting held 2 month ago
contact: saurav.goyal.cdac@gmail.com
would anyone take care of LDCs & UDCs who have been downgraded in 6-CPC to Group D equivalence but still supposed to carry most of the responsibilities on their shoulders.
GBC (Grade Based Contract ) to PE (Project Engineer )Conversion – Demotion in CDAC
As of now they have not issued any letter. For one person from our center Delhi i heard DG has agreed for 6 months extension on consolidated pay. No letter issued as of now as i know.
Now the shocking news is :
1) Terminate the person as soon as his contract ends
2) Go for an open advertisement for PE-1 ( Salary 27000-30000 )and PE-2 ( 37000 – 40000 ) no promotion nothing.
3) The process after termination will take at least 3 months. So if suppose we prefer to stay in CDAC we will be jobless for 3 months and also we will be humiliated by this.
Also one more info is that there is a Management Board meeting to be held this month . ED of centers will be attending i hope . I request all of GBC’s ie yours friends to meet your Associate Directors and stress the ED’s to go against this process during the management board meeting.
Please pass on this info to all the GBC’s as possible.
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