Outcome National Anomaly Committee meeting – Secretary General

National Anomaly Committee meeting – Decisions & Discussions

The third meeting of the National Anomaly Committee was held on 15/02/2011. The following items were taken up for discussion. No final decision on any item could be arrived at. It was more or less an exercise to understand the points of view of both sides on these items. We shall in our next communication indicate the outcome of discussion on each item.

Item Nos. 11, 12&13, 14, 20, 28,29&30, 31,37, 38,39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 46, 49, 50 and 51.

During the discussion the Staff brought to the notice of the official side that the issues pertaining to the employees of Andaman and Nicobar islands, which were taken out of the agenda on the plea that the same would be discussed separately by a Committee to be set up by the Andaman Administration have not been settled. The NGO Association of A & N Islands have brought to the notice of the staff side that the A & N Administration has not taken any steps to resolve the problems even though similar issues pertaining to the employees of Pondicherry and Delhi were settled. The Official side has promised to take up the issue with the concerned in the Home Ministry to ensure that the issues are addressed expeditiously.

The official side has in the Action Taken State has indicated their inability to concede the demand raised by the Staff Side on the following two issues.

(a) Grant of increment in the case of employees whose increment falls between Feb and June. 2006.

(b) Fixing the pay of the promotees on par with the Direct recruits.

Though these issues were not discussed, the Staff Side has said that a resolution to them are urgently needed .

The official side has requested the Staff Side to indicate the items on which further discussions are needed; further details are required; and alternative suggestions could be made within 10 days so that the next and final meeting of the Committee could be convened before 31st March, 2011. It was also decided that the sub-committee of the MACP related issued will meet once again and their report submitted to the NAC .




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February 16, 2011 Tags: Discussion & Decisions, NAC Meeting, Third Meeting Posted in: CCS Rules, Expected DA, Uncategorized

65 Responses

Yogender Singh - February 16, 2011

whether u have accepted all the decision of the committee. What about injustice faced the most sufferer cadres LDC/UDC and equivalent?
prem chand singh yadav - February 17, 2011

How pay will fixed of a candidate who has applied through proper channel for higher responsiblity post in same department (Direct Recruitment) and his current pay has crossed the minimum basic of higher post. I am demanding one additional increament should be given at the time of joining .

prem chand singh yadav
Prakash Shastri - February 17, 2011

Sir, big anomaly in the pay scale/grade pay of Library Information Assistant(LIA), after implementation of 6th CPC.

*The Library Information Assistants are placed in the grade pay of Rs.4200/-.

and

*school Librarians, TGT and Physical Education Teachersare placed in the grade pay of Rs.4600/-.

This is big anomaly of LIAs pay scale and pay band.

The above referred anomaly existed in the 5th CPC too. That is, school librarians were placed in the pay scale of Rs.5500-9000/-, whereas the Library Information Assistants were given the pay scale of Rs. 5000–8000/- initially.

This anomaly was removed by the Ministry of Finance vide its Office Memorandum No. 71/3/2001-IC, dated 21. 2. 2002, and placed in the pay scale of Rs.5500-9000.

It is stated that the Library Information Assistants School Librarians, Trained Graduate Teachers, Physical Education Teachers require minimum educational qualification (3 year Graduation degree + one year Professional degree)i.e .B.A/B.Sc/B.Com.+ B.Ed./ B.P.Ed./B.Lib.Sc. Above all minimum educational qualifications are same, but grade pay different.

WHY?

Hence it is justified that the Library Information Assistants deserve to be placed in the grade pay of Rs. 4600/- (from 01/01/2006).

This anomaly may kindly be looked into seriously. I request to the National anomaly committee (6th CPC) to render natural justice to the Library Information Assistants (LIA).

Prakash Shastri
R prasad - February 17, 2011

Grade pay for Jr. stenographer of Railway should be increased because gr. pay for jr.stenographer of State of West Bengal has already been increase to Rs.3600/-. But it is a matter of regret we the Jr. stenos of Railway are suffering the huge losses for long time back. Kindly consider the case.
RAKESH - February 17, 2011

It is predicted that NAC will not consider the demand of staff side to allow minimum to the promottees/seniors, as this is not a anomaly of PB-4. The employees unions are earnestly requested to directly approach Hon’ble PM or Hon’ble Finance Minister otherwise the last option is to knock the door of Hon’ble court. As this case should stand. please takeup the matter further, we should not surrender.
naresh - February 17, 2011

Dear Sirs,
Please look into the matters of the employees who are working in the subordinate offices and fears to get retirement without any promotion as there is no promotion channel. The LDCs are supposed to get 2000,2400 & 2800 GP at the time of their grant of ACP/MACP.
Since the GP of class IV have been upgraded, the minimum qualification of clerical staff has been upgraded we want a favor.
RAKESH - February 17, 2011

Promotional scale and Grade pay must be given on MACP as it would place the LDC/UDC/Steno in a much higher grade pay. Those who were got old ACP are enjoy higher salary and the employees who have given MACP are the most sufferer. So promotion Grade pay should be given under MACP to avoid the injustice.
thankachan - February 17, 2011

what is about persons in the same grade pay getting lower basic than those who joined even today with the same grade pay.
asshama - February 17, 2011

The outcome of anomaly committee meeting is shocking. JCM should take serious step towards adamant attitude of official side.
K.SUGUMARAN - February 17, 2011

sir,
Grant of increment in the case of employees whose increment falls between Feb and June. 2006.
it is in now a very hypothitical situation and critical to understand,why official side has expressed their inability.
is it not a genuine demand. is it not a genuine anomoly.in
both the set of cases(whose increment is in jan and dec get two bunching with in 6 months).whereas feb to june cases has to wait 17 months to get 1 increment. is it against the F.R of granding increment on completion of 12 months.if the govt doesnt hear the genuine demand of its own employee tnen who else will care them.u please look into the problem in the angle of retired employees and low paid employees.
Again hope for the best
Om Prakash Tyagi - February 17, 2011

I wish to draw attention on following point regarding anomaly in 6th Pay Commission’s recommendation in the scale of Assistant Library & Information Officers in central government offices:

1. In the 4th Pay commission’s recommendation the position of working PGT, Librarian in school and central government’s libraries was as under: (before 01.01.1996)
Post Minimum Qualification Scale (in Rs.)
Assistant Library & Information Officer P.G. + B.Lib.&I.Sc. (1 Yr.) 2000-3500
(Scales
2200-4000, 2375-3500 and 2000-3500 were merged in 2000-3500)
Post Graduate Teacher Post Graduate 1640-2900
School Librarian Graduate + B.Lib.&I.Sc. 1400-2600

2. In central government’s offices scale of Assistant Library & Information Officers in 5th Pay commission recommendation were as under: (from 01.01.1996)
Post Minimum Qualification Scale (in Rs.)
Assistant Library & Information Officer P.G. + B. Lib. & I.Sc 6500-10500
Post Graduate Teacher Post Graduate 6500-10500
School Librarian Graduate + B. Lib.&I. Sc. 5500-9000

3. In the 6th Pay commission recommendation the position of these posts were as under: (after 01.01.2006)
Post Minimum Qualification Scale (in Rs.) Grade Pay
Assistant Library & Information Officer P.G. + B. Lib. & I.Sc. PB-2
9300-34800
Rs.4600
Post Graduate Teacher* Post Graduate PB-2
9300-34800
Rs.4800
School Librarian* Graduate + B. Lib. & I.Sc. PB-2
9300-34800
Rs.4600
*Kendriya Vidyalay Sangathan order no. f.11081-4/2008 – KVSHQ (admn-I) Date: 05.11.2008. (Annexure-B )

4. Anomaly started in 4th pay commission (before 01.01.1996) is still continued. Inspite of higher criteria (P.G.+ B.Lib. & I.Sc.) for AL&IO, the grade pay is lower than a post graduate PGT. This can be understood by comparison given in table below:

Post Minimum Qualification before 01.01.1996
(Scale) from 01.01.1996
(Scale) From 01.01.2006
(Grade Pay)

Assistant Library & Information Officer P.G. + B. Lib. Sc
(1 year) 2000-3500 6500-10500 Rs.4600
Post Graduate Teacher* Post Graduate 1640-2900 6500-10500 Rs.4800
School Librarian* Graduate + B. Lib. Sc. (1 Year) 1400-2600 5500-9000 Rs.4600

5. By comparing above mentioned table it is clear that; before 1.1.1996 the scale of ALIO was more than PGT which became less after 01.01.2006. At the same time the AL&IO working in Government departmental Libraries are getting salary equal of School Librarian which is really a great anomaly and derogatory.

6. Before 01.01.1996 to till date the educational qualification of AL&IO is more than school librarian. In view of Budget, work, and library service the library of central government organisation is multiple in size of library of schools.

7. AL&IO is the in-charge of Library. The proper and successful running of a library is the onus of AL&IO. Present anomaly in the scale is matter of disappointment and discouraging for the AL&IO’s working in central government departmental Libraries.

8. In the perspective of other Group ‘B’ officers in Central Government Offices, earlier in the 5th pay commission, the grade of Assistant Library & Information Officer (AL&IO) was upgraded to Rs.6500-10500 (expected 7500-12000) from the old scale of Rs.2000-3500/(RPS), where as the pay scales of all the other equivalent group ‘B’ officers was raised to 7500-12000.
9. In the perspective of other Group ‘B’ officers in Central Government Offices, now, in the recommendations of the 6th pay commission, again the AL&IO grade in the Central government offices has been over looked and is proposed to be upgraded to Rs.7450-11500 and fixed in PB-2 at Rs.9300 -34800 along with pay grade Rs.4600. Other Group ‘B’ officers in old pay scale 6500-10500 and 7500-12000 are placed in PB-2 Rs.9300 -34800 along with pay grade Rs.4800 and completion of four years service they will be placed in PB-3 Rs.15600-39100 along with pay grade 5400 in group ‘B’ status. But there is no such provision for AL&IO who are the in-charge of the Central Govt. Departmental and Institutional Library. Also, the basic qualification for AL&IO is Master Degree with B.Lib & I.Sc. or Bachelor Degree with M.Lib & I.Sc. and preference is given to Master degree with M.Lib. & I.Sc. but basic qualification for other group ‘B’ officers is Bachelor Degree according to the discipline.

Keeping in above fact and responsibility and work it is requested from Anomaly committee to consider the rectification in our scale as under:

Post Scale Grade Pay
Assistant Library & Information Officer PB-3 (15600-39100) 5400

It is kind request from anomaly committee, Railway Board (Ministry of Railway) that provides Scale and grade pay to AL&IO working under Central Government offices according to scale before than 01.01.1996. One grade pay higher than PGT and two grade higher than school librarian.

I sincerely hope the case will be reviewed favourably and duly justified.
RAM - February 17, 2011

The two issues which are very important and serious which are
(a)Grant of increment in the case of employees whose increment falls between Feb and June. 2006.
(b) Fixing the pay of the promotees on par with the Direct recruits.

But after two years also after setup of National Pay anomoly committee still the decision not yet come on any issue. We are getting doubt whether the committee is setup really in the interest of Employees or to just wipe up the issue by making time pass.
Kinsuk kumar Das - February 18, 2011

The issues related to Fixing of Pay of the promotees at par with the Direct recruits for same grade pay shall be taken as a most urgent.
I would suggest the staff side to put pressure on official side to take necessary action to fulfil the same , other wise formation of NAC is wortless.As I think most of the employee are affected with the sasme issue.
Hopping fof the favorable out come in the next and probably last NAC meeting
Pamei Dimkulung - February 18, 2011

One of the Agenda to be discuss on National Anomaly Committee Meeting – 15.02.2011 was Stepping up of pay of senior on par with the pay of higher pat granted to new entrants.
I could not understand why the Committee did not discuss the important issues.
Neeraj - February 18, 2011

whether the decision of not giving euqal pay to promottee qua the direct recruit will stand in the court? I think that to avoid cases in the court, anamoly committee is being set up and asked not to do anything and hang the matter as long it can and will announce the decision of giving at the time of any election to show that how the government is worked for the benefit of the employees.
BABU - February 18, 2011

kindly refer anomaly committee reply.give details about ‘one time exemption.
BABU - February 18, 2011

The officials whose increment falls between Feb-2006 and June-2006 have faced recurring lose in the past and future also at their ‘no-fault’.This is the matter of increment lose and should fight for sucess.
ANIL KUMAR KARN - February 18, 2011

sir
I am very dissappointed by viewing that NAC even not disscused most important and urgent anamolly i e senior are drawing less than junior .still we have lots of expectation hope our union willnot stand back on this issue.THANKS
Pradeep Sah,RDSO - February 21, 2011

sir
What will be the minimum pay for the direct recruittee after 01.01.2006 as PGT,TGT & PRT in Kendriya Vidyalaya.
Gahuraj Rathod - February 21, 2011

Sir,
My Suggestion for diparity in pay of directly recruited UDC and UDC promoted through departmental examination i.e., senior to junior is wherever there is direct recruitment, candidate promoted through departmental examination should be given pay on par with the pay of direct recruitee from the date of promotion and not from the date of joining of junior. In most of the departments for higher designations there is no direct recruitment and employees are promoted through departmental examination only. Best example is Dept. of Atomic Energy.
kusum - February 22, 2011

Sir, I am a stenographer Grade D in subordinate office wherein stagnation is in very large scale even those stenos who have completed 20 years of service are still waiting for promotion. I have given MACP in July 2009 with Grade Pay 2800 and just one batch senior to me are getting Grade Pay of Rs. 4600 as under old ACP scheme promotional scale was given to them. Therefore, it is requested that Anomaly Committee of the DOPT should take favourable decision and allow promotional scale and grade pay in MACP which would oust disparity and injustice to us.
sks - February 22, 2011

When the case of anamoly between direct recruit and promotee going to be settled?
R.S.Pillai - February 22, 2011

After almost 8 months, the NAC again met for the removal of anomaly on 15th Feb,2011. The main agenda before them was to consider grant of increment to those whose increment date were between Feb to June and fixing the pay of promotees at par with the direct recruits. But the outcome was just surprising. Both the demands were just a jokes in the eyes of the Govt. How the Govt. could justify the preponement of increment of some staff to July and virtully denied increment to some other staff who even after completion of 12 months do not found to be elegible for increment. Who actually wanted the July 1st increment date? If the Govt. wanted to have a single increment date, then the Govt. should have done justice to everybody and ensured that nobody had affected by doing so. The second agenda was more interesting. A employee after putting so many years of service to the Govt. gets a promotion to a next higher post. In some cases, his pay pay might have also crossed the pay of the promoted post and he gets only the benefits of a increment. If it is not so, he might be getting a small amount being differences of the previous scale of pay and promotional pay.in 6th CPC it is also not the same. What ever it may be, how can one say that the direct recruitees is better than a promotee. The promotee is more experienced and have more knowledge with the works of the relevant field and the Govt.is paying more to the direct recruitees. The Govt. may pay any amounts to the direct recruitees but if a existing employee is promoted to the same post or grade, his or her pay should also be at par with the direct recruitee and it was the prevailing proceedure till the 6th CPC. I will write more and also about my service lateron.
Jay prakash upadhaya - February 22, 2011

anomaly regarding grant of grade pay to Asstt Accounts officer/Asstt Audit officer needs to be finalized as early as possible as the frustration is growing among them very sharply. Their subordinate staff under group ‘c’ (Senior auditors who have completed service of more than 30 years) are drawing grade pay of Rs 5400/- (granted under MACP) moreover their entitlement is also excess then their supervising staff. This is a big joke. Is this a definition of grade pay that grade/status of supervisory staff is below his subordinate staff.
kusum - February 23, 2011

All the steno and UDC who have been completed ten years of service should be promoted immediately as they are suffering with huge loss due to implementation of MACP.
shiv kumar yadav - February 23, 2011

Respected sir,
latest news of revised grade pay of ldc/udc.
T.Manoharan - February 23, 2011

Sir, According to pre revised pay scale, i was elegeble to get a Type V govt. residential accommodation and I was allotted a Type V Quarters. Now MY grade pay is Rs. 6600 and I am not eligeble for type V accommodation, for which the grade pay of Rs. 7600 is required. If i am transferred, i will be allotted a type IV quarter instead of type V quarter. Can you guide how to get my grade pay fixed to Rs.7600.
harish - February 23, 2011

Sir I am a PGT appointed on 1-1-2005 as a direct recruit but i am fixedat BP+GP 6700*1.86+4800=17270. where a entry level is 18150.is it justified
Niranjan - February 23, 2011

ANOMALY COMMITTEE IS NOT INTERESTED ON PAY FIXATION ON PROMOTION AT PAR DR
selvaraj - February 25, 2011

I would like to know hwere we can find the series of agenda points?
Is this anamoly committee can look into the isuues of 12K officers?
Actually the dept level anamoly comm. had recommended a one time 4 inc hike for 12K officers. whether this NAC has approved this recommendation or not?

The tenure of this NAC ends by 31/3/11.
Satheesh - February 26, 2011

The sixth pay commission has merged three pay scales to one grade pay of 4200. The scientific cadre employees are most suffering as the department, CPCB is not even ready to accept the demands of the staff. Two cadres of scientific assistants have two different qualifications for recruitment, the junior one with graduation in science where as the senior one is with post graduation in science. Because of the non revision of the grades, even after getting promotion ten years before we are in the same position that is with out promotion. Will this end in near future
sujan Banerjee - February 28, 2011

Great anomaly for ASSISTANT ACCOUNT OFFICER having grade pay of rs.4800/-.where as his subordinate Sr.Accountant enjoyed grade pay Rs.5400/with MACP.is it not a joke? one officer who writes APAR of a higher grade pay earned employee.how funny…..please do something….
Jit. P - March 1, 2011

1. Most suffer in the 6th pay commission recommendation are LDC and UDC. Is there anomaly committee has taken the issue of up-gradation of Grade Pay of LDC and UDC to Rs.2400/- and Rs.2800/- , respectively. It is learnt that a proposal to grant Grade Pay of Rs.4200/- to those UDCs who have completed 4/5 years of service in the Grade is under examination of DOPT. Is it still lying in the DOPT or forwarded to MFA for consideration , please enlighten.
2. What about the status of person promoted under Limited departmental examination for consideration MACP scheme. is there any consensus arrived to grant them status of direct recruit . Staff side requested take up the issue to Anomaly Committee.
S K PANDEY - March 2, 2011

SIR, PLEASE CLARIFY THAT EMPLOYEE OF NON MINISRIAL WHOSE PAY WAS 5000_8000 IN PRE_REVISED, IS ENTITLED FOR GRADE PAY OF Rs.4600 OR NOT?
S K PANDEY - March 2, 2011

SIR, SENIORITY OF SOME EMPLYEES OF MY OFFICE WERE SHOWN, IN THE DRAFT SENIRITY LIST CIRCULATED IN 2010, FROM THE DT OF THEIR PROMOTION THOUGH THEY JOINED LATER ON BECAUSE OF TRASFER BUT MY SENIORITY IS SHOWN FROM THE DT OF JOINING NOT FROM PROMOTION DT. I REPRESENTED TO RECTIFY AS PER RULE. SIR PLEASE CLARIFY WHETHER MY SENIROTY SHOULD BE COUNTED FROM THE DT OF PROMOTION LIKE OTHERS OR SHOULD BE FROM THE DT OF JOINING IN ALL CASES. FINAL SENIORY LIST NOT ISSUED TILL DATE.
mohd.wajud ali khan - March 7, 2011

The NAC Committee Members are humbly requested to please consider the UDC’s pay band Rs.4200/= because all the official correspondene routed through UDC’S and the higher officials just put the signature only. So UDC’S are most sufferer with meager amount . Hence, the NAC Committee members are holeheartedly requested to take urgent decesion for implement of higher grade pay and I shall be very much thankful in this regard.
RCC - March 7, 2011

Group ‘B’ officers in some Central Government Offices, now, in the recommendations of the 6th pay commission is proposed to be upgraded to Rs.7450-11500 and fixed in PB-2 at Rs.9300 -34800 along with pay grade Rs.4600. Some group ‘B’ officers in old pay scale 6500-10500 and 7500-12000 are placed in PB-2 Rs.9300 -34800 along with pay grade Rs.4800 and completion of four years service they will be placed in PB-3 Rs.15600-39100 along with pay grade 5400 in group ‘B’ status. Why the assistant engineers of engineering organisation enjoying the status of Group ‘B’ gazetted officers are not placed with pay grade Rs.4800 and completion of four years service in PB-3 Rs.15600-39100 along with pay grade 5400
gurdev singh - March 7, 2011

Dear Sir,
A detailed clarificatory OM’s all the more necessay,for removing all disparities among 34 pre-revised scale when the same undergoes revision on 01-01-2006 and afterwards too. whether suitable remedy to all the problems being encountered owing to pay band concept,can be expected from the NAC meeting which would be held on 31 March 2011. Dear sir, when we are going to hear the news that order of upgradation of grade pay of Rs.4200 of pre-revised pay scale of 5500-9000 made to Rs.4600 is issued wef 01-01-2006 for Admin Supdt and Stores Supdt in DRDO’s Lab/Estt and others. Please do inform me on my email ID : pbgurdevsingh2145@gmail.com
Maninder - March 8, 2011

Sir, Tax Assistants in the CBDT Dept are recruited by the SSC, with the qualification of Bachelor Degree(3years) + Skill Test of Computer (8000 key depression), paid 2400/- Grade pay.
Whereas Data Entry Operator in the various Dept. also recruited through SSC, with qualification of Plus Two and Skill Test(8000 Key depression)are paid 2400/-
How can be same Grade pay given to those who have higher qualification?
The Postal Dept recruits DEO, having qualification of just Plus Two, and paid 2400/- GP.
Now the Tax Assistants in CBDT & CBEC are recruited through combined Graduate level examination, where the candidate has to qualify Tyre I & Tyre II and further has to be qualify the computer test. Inspectors in the both Dept also appearing the same tests (no Computer test for them) paid Grade Pay of 4600/- and the Tax Assistants are paid Grade pay mere 2400/-
We request the NAC to kindly look into the matter seriously and grant Grade Pay to Tax Assistant at least 4200/-

This anomaly may kindly be looked into seriously. We further request to the National anomaly committee (6th CPC) to render justice to the Tax Assistants (Direct recruited).
M.R.Singh - March 9, 2011

When minimum entry pay for eacy grade pay has been fixed by pay commission and accepted by govt. and the reason for this entry pay has been clearly discussed by the commission in their report in the spirit of FR of constitution, there may be no doubt to allow the entry pay in each grade pay as stated in schedule-II of the CCS(RP) Rules 2008 for every officials appointed either by promotion or by recruitment. In case, govt does not accept this, it is a fit case to challenge in the court. Has any progress been in this regard. Kindly confirm.
Paresh Roy - March 15, 2011

We the Group ‘B’ Private Secy/Gazetted in Railways (Zonal offices) now, after the recommendations of the 6th pay commission has been placed in scale Rs.9300-34800 in PB-2 with grade Pay Rs.4800. Whereas our sister Organization some group ‘B’ officers in both Technical & Non-technical categories are also placed in same GP & PB in case of PROMOTEE OFFICERS’ ONLY. But it is needless to mention here that other than PS(Gaz of Zonal Railways)all Gaz.officers’ are enjoying GP 5400 after completion of three years in PB-3, whereas we(PS/Gaz)GP 5400 are being rewarded ONLY after completion of FOUR years. So, it is gross injustice and violation of principles of Natural justice vis-a-vis Equal pay for equal works.
It is also worthwhile to mention here that 6CPC has recommended vide para 11.15 PARITY WITH RBSSS (Rly.Board Sectt. Stenographers Service) but it is surprise that more than 4 years have elapsed but still nothing has been initiated by Ministry of Railways as well as our organisation like IRPOF. Meanwhile, I like to mention here that both in CENTRAL SECRETARIAT & RBSSS regarding upgradation of PSs have already been implemented & they are enjoying the Grade & status of PSO(Principal Staff Officer), Sr.PPS ,PPS & PS etc but we the PSs(working for the last TEN years) of Zonal Rlys. are still knocking at the Ministry’s door for getting the recommendations implemented (For placing in PB-3 after completion of three years service.Your valuable suggestions & pragmatic solution is solicited. PARESH (15.03.2011)
Bhagat Singh - March 25, 2011

Respected Chairman NAC please re-c onsider the following in the forthcoming NAC meeting :-

(a) Non Grant of Entry Grade to all seniors who got/hold the post by promotion/transfer/absorption is abuse to natural justice or spirit of Fundamenal Rule of Equal salary for Equal Work and Senior should not get less salary than Juniors. Hence you are requested to eradicate the anamoly otherwise it may be challenged in the court of Law and will waste the valuable time of Judges.

(b) Education qualification for recruitment of Junior Accountant is Graduate and he/she has to deal with Accounts and audit related jobs but he/she is put in PB 1 with Grade Pay of Rs 2800/- is unjustice as many posts in postal and other departments having qualification of 10+2 have been put in PB II with Grade Pay of 4200/- pay . Therefore please re-consider the case for putting the Junior Accountant and Auditor in PB II with Grade Pay of Rs 4200/-.

(c) As per VIth CPC mandatory service for grant of Annual Increment is six months but when an employee retires on supernnuation after 31 Dec, he/she has completed more than six months of mandatory service and he is retired by rule, hence his/her pensionery benefits, should be calculated by granting him his/her due annual increment.

Please intimate that when the next NAC meeting is going to assemble.
K.Naveen Kumar - March 25, 2011

Sir,
Kindly inform whether the National Anomaly Committee is meeting again before its term ending on 31st March 2011 , to discuss the issue of Date of next Increment between Feb-Jun 2006.
I suggest a one time waiver ,as in cases where Government servants not able to join a particular grade pay on promotion/appointment on 1st January of a year due to Sunday or Gazetted holiday(F.No/1/1/2008-IC ), may be agreed upon by the honourable members for the relief of thousands of affected employees.
After all,something is better than nothing.Regards.
sangeeta banerjee - March 27, 2011

Sir,

I have been appointed as Steno.Grade C through examination conduced by UPSC on Sept.1979. I promoted as P.S. in 1993. I got my 2nd A.C.P. in July 2003 after completion of 24 yrs. of service. According to 6th Pay Commission Report I am eligible for 3rd ARCP on July, 2009 after completion of 30 years service. When non-functional scale for SOs / PSs came in 2006, I have not got any benefit nor my pay was fixed at that time, as I was already getting the scale of 10,000 – 16,000/- at that time. I have only got two up-gradations in my pay so far. Now my question is that am I not eligible for 3rd upgradation of my pay after completing 30 years of service in September, 2009 ?
Subir Kundu - March 27, 2011

To,

The respected Staff side members of the Anomaly Committee,

Sirs,

Just a few more days left for the tenure of this Committee to expire as the tenure was extended up to 31/3/2011. I literally fail to understand for what reasons the tenure of this Committee was extended and what actually has been done by this Committee during its extended period. Well, I do realise that it is not something strange or new that has happened. Committees are formed by the Govt for a purpose and it ends without a resolve. A legitimate, justified and valid demand was made by the entire clerical cadre working under the Central Govt that the grade pay of LDCs and UDCs should be enhanced to Rs 2400/- and Rs 2800/- respectively. It is highly disappointing and reprehensible that the point has not been included in the list for discussions/taking up with the forum. None of the members from the either side have ever bothered to consider a legitimate demand placed by the entire clerical cadre. Then what was this Committee set up for? Was the intent of the Govt to brush aside the pay-related anomalies but setting up a Committee who will turn a blind eye to the legitimate demands? Firstly, the clerical cadre has been put to great financial loss by not granting the promotional scale under the MACP Scheme and secondly, the demand for enhancement of grade pay has also not been paid any heed as if, the demand was infructuous. As a final word, I would like to comment that it is absolutely unfair and disgrace on the part of the Govt and the Committee that a legitimate demand based on various functional aspects as was brought out earlier, has not been considered in true spirits. This will have serious consequence on functional and competence aptitude and quality of clerical work will broadly affect the entire executive system at all levels. And yes, when there is a conflict of interest, there are litigations. The clerks will seek for justice through the judicial process of the land. Please remember one bare fact, it is the Babus who run the executive system and not the officers who are sitting in a AC room signing the letters/drafts/reports prepared by the Babus. It’s a reality on ground. The Govt must re-visit the issue in true spirits before it looses propriety in the minds of Babus.
[Subir Kundu, UDC, Agra]
susil kumar ray - April 1, 2011

Sir,
In Zonal Railways,non-secretariate Stenos working in scale Rs.6500-10500/- are designated as PS-II and on being slected they are promoted in Group ‘B’ in scale Rs.7500-12000/- and at the same time they are designated as PS-I. Now PS-II & PS-I both are giving identification as PS.Hence, it is very difficult to identify who is PS-I & who is PS-II as everybody is identifying PS. Hence,change in designation is a must. Designation may be given as Asst.Secy.
ananymus - April 2, 2011

The career up gradations for ministerial staffs must be given in the same avenue and in the same structure to which they belong to in that department where they are working.

A grade pay which is not at all in the structure was given to ministerial staff as MACP up gradation. In many departments the cadres are facing such problems.

Ministerial staffs were placed in the grade pay that was granted to technical staffs by way of MACP up gradation. Though the ministerial staffs were placed in the technical staffs grade pay, further promotion will not be given for ministerial staffs to a technical post. Hence, the fall back status remains unchanged.

The educational qualification of the technical staffs, who were placed in that grade pay, is much lower to that of the ministerial staff’s.

This cannot be treated as career progression at all.

The career up gradations for ministerial staffs must be given in the same avenue and in the same structure to which they belong to in the department.

Then only it can be a meaningful career progression to overcome the fall back status.

In our department, the grade pays, granted for LDC-UDC- Head Clerks structure are 1900, 2400, 4200 respectively. But, under MACP up gradation, from Rs.2400, a grade pay of Rs.2800 is given. This grade pay of Rs.2800 pertains to the structure of technical posts. It is not at all granted in the structure of LDC-UDC-Head Clerk. A staff belongs to LDC UDC structure, cannot get further promotion to a technical post, though he was placed in a technical post grade pay of Rs.2800,

This cannot be treated as career progression.

To resolve this anomaly for LDC-UDC-Head Clerks, MACP up gradations must be given in the granted structure of 1900-2400-4200.
Manoj - April 3, 2011

The career up gradations for ministerial staffs must be given in the same avenue and in the same structure to which they belong to in that department where they are working.

A grade pay which is not at all in the structure was given to ministerial staff as MACP up gradation. In many departments the cadres are facing such problems.

Ministerial staffs were placed in the grade pay that was granted to technical staffs by way of MACP up gradation. Though the ministerial staffs were placed in the technical staffs grade pay, further promotion will not be given for ministerial staffs to a technical post. Hence, the fall back status remains unchanged.

The educational qualification of the technical staffs, who were placed in that grade pay, is much lower to that of the ministerial staff’s.

This cannot be treated as career progression at all.

The career up gradations for ministerial staffs must be given in the same avenue and in the same structure to which they belong to in the department.

Then only it can be a meaningful career progression to overcome the fall back status.

In our department, the grade pays, granted for LDC-UDC- Head Clerks structure are 1900, 2400, 4200 respectively. But, under MACP up gradation, from Rs.2400, a grade pay of Rs.2800 is given. This grade pay of Rs.2800 pertains to the structure of technical posts. It is not at all granted in the structure of LDC-UDC-Head Clerk. A staff belongs to LDC UDC structure, cannot get further promotion to a technical post, though he was placed in a technical post grade pay of Rs.2800,

This cannot be treated as career progression.

To resolve this anomaly for LDC-UDC-Head Clerks, MACP up gradations must be given in the granted structure of 1900-2400-4200.
veena koul - April 6, 2011

Dear Sir,

I feel highly demoralised to see that great injustice is done to the employees covered under the scale of UDC,LDC and Headclerk.
Before V pay commission an UDC and a PRT was under same scale. After V pay commission and UDC was given a scale starting 4000 and PRT was at 4500.
In VI Pay commission this gap has more widened. A PRT is getting 9300 pus grade pay 4200, while as a UDC is at scale of 5200 plus GP 2400. And hight of it, a UDC is required to be equipped with latest computer education and other Technical qualifications.
Vijay Kumar - April 6, 2011

Respected Sir,

I deeply regretted to say you that the job satisfaction of clerical staff i.e. LDC/UDC is falling down day by day due to rude attitude by the pay committee towards their pay. Now, six CPC up the status of group D employee as granted with 1800 grade pay and entered in PB-1.But in other hand no justification given to the LDC/UDC according their qualification, duties and responsibilities. This is the sorrow point that a newly appointed LDC had earned before CPC approximately
Rs. 1000 higher than a newly recruit safaiwala when the pay in quite meager and now, after CPS still only Rs. 1000 difference in both guys pay. However, the qualification , work orientation and responsibility of an LDC deserve more pay. Beside it, UDC also drawing quite meager pay comparing to their charter of duty.

It is also for your kind consideration that in paramilitary forces a clerk/LDC is recruited as HC(Ministerial) in PB-1 with the grade pay of Rs.2400 and UDC as ASI (Ministerial)with 2800 grade pay . Apart from that in these organizations a safaiwala is also recruited in PB-1 with Rs. 2000 GP. Thus, the pay of a safiawala in paramilitary forces is higher then to an LDC of Central civil services.

In view of the above I desired to show you that it is fully unjustified decision by 06th CPC towards the pay settlements of both LDC and UDC. Also I request your honour kindly take favourable action at your end for both these posts.

thanking you in anticipation,
Manoj Raut - April 8, 2011

I have completd 10yeas service in april 2006, shall I eligble for MACP as per new rules MACP is came in force from sep 2008. Kindely clearify.

2. Our office not given examfee& term fees.please clarify it. They are not giving accessrioes like compass box schhol bags , sweater which is inclued in school uniform.
kindely clearfy.
Thanks Manoj raut.PGT
jai pathak - April 19, 2011

sir,
we from India Met. Dept are the most neglected cadre as scientific staff. cadre review in our dept is implemented for group a officers, but not for the staff inspite of so many committes giving report.. MOES is not implementing any recommendation.. kindly advise our frustrated staff where to go.. we pray to weather gods to shower blessings on us..
ajay suri - May 11, 2011

sir,
Grant of increment in the case of employees whose increment falls between Feb and June. 2006.
it is in now a very hypothitical situation and critical to understand,why official side has expressed their inability.
is it not a genuine demand. is it not a genuine anomoly.in
both the set of cases(whose increment is in jan and dec get two bunching with in 6 months).whereas feb to june cases has to wait 17 months to get 1 increment. is it against the F.R of granding increment on completion of 12 months.if the govt doesnt hear the genuine demand of its own employee tnen who else will care them.
Rajesh Kumar Singh - May 29, 2011

Sir,
Most humbly and respectfully it is submitted that the following facts on Status Quo of Part I Cadre Posts ( TCM, IMO,IME, IMTT,RADAR MECH ETC.) in defence Artisans staff for your kind consideration.
1. Part 1 cadre are always seperate cadre from part II cadre, because it has never been any feeder trades.
2. Supervisor post is the 1st promotion for part 1 cadre trades.
3. part I cadre are never been brought under Restructuring scheme due to 100% posts are filled up through direct recruitment only also posts were never filled up through promotion.
4. This cadre never had HSII/Grade -II Posts.
5. HS II posts were mearged with HS I post which were Part II cadre pots not a Part I cadre ( Prior to Vth CPC).
6. there were HSII in part I cadre IN EME (Indd) RR 1982 and 1988.
7. By 14 June 2010 order Part I cadre have been downgraded by splitting them into two gps, i.e HSI & HSII grade. there is no justification to downgradation of any designation/ post in any trades. it will be defined as unfair. it can be upgraded but cannot be downgraded/ degraded.
8. earliar both post were mearged ( who were from part II cadre only)and now they are splitted. Hence part I cadre become HS I automatically. and w.e.f 1st Jan 2006 all part I cadre posts should be brought in entry grade pay Rs 2800/-.
9. the nature of work of both cadre are almost different, for Part I cadre nature of work is complex, and on highly sophisticatd eqpt of indian Army and require skills Knowledge and Experties in their appropriate field. almost all the eqpt are controlled,repaired and overhauled by computer based system, wheree as nature of work for part I cadre are simple and not complex.

from the above fact I want to maintain the status quo of parte I cadre as Highly Skilled Grade I as it was in EME RR ind 1982 and 1988 and allow entry grade of Rs 2800/- for all post of part I cadre trades.
HC Tiwari - June 28, 2011

The grade pay of LDC/Store keeper and those mployees direct recruitment in Rs. 3050-4590 is to be Rs. 2000/- so that all anomoleis may be finanlised at one time.
Bahadur Singh - June 30, 2011

The Grade Pay of L.D.C. should be Rs 2800/- & U.D.C. Rs. 3500/- who are direct recruitment or on promotion, because all work passed any office worked by ministerial staff.
Therefore, I request the Ministry of Finance (Secretary)& Secretary of All India Central Employees Union please look into the matter and up-grade the Grade of L.D.C. & U.D.C. Rs. 2800/- & Rs. 3500/-
NOTE- 8th Pass & 10th Pass Group “D” Employees are taking Grade Pay 1800/- (in all Central Govt. Department)
NOTE- 10th Pass Grout “C” employees are taking Grade Pay 2800/- in Cost Guard or Army, Navy & Cost Guard Department
NOTE- But 12th pass & Graduation Pass Group “C” employee are Taking only Grade pay Rs. 1900/- please just look into the matter because Ministerial Staff face the many problem like Financially as well socially.
Subir Kundu - July 6, 2011

I have been urging the Official and Staff Side members of the NAC to kindly address the issue of enhancement of grade pay of the LDCs and UDCs. It is very unfortunate on the part of the entire clerical staff that the point could not gather any mass for consideration. Employees in Class IV trades/posts are getting grade pay of Rs 1800/- whereas, a LDC is getting Rs 1900/- as grade pay. The CPC as well as the members of the ibid two sides could not visualize the difference and gravity of task, degree of responsibility and education level between the two groups while fixing the grade pay. This is really very disgraceful that there is a difference of only Rs 100/- between the two groups. The authorities have never bothered to realize the quantum of disappointment being felt by the clerical staff, which is demoralizing them financially and socially and badly affecting the status of the clerical staff. The clerical staff are the executive functionary in any department and they deserve to be treated as such to keep up their moral and social status for survival. I urge to members of both the sides to consider the issue in true perspective and take a wise decision in the broader interest of the entire clerical cadre.
[Subir Kundu, UDC, Agra]
ajit singh - July 10, 2011

NAC IS A GROUP OF JOKERS THEY NOT SOLVE CENTRAL GOVT PROBLEM SO FOR LAST ONE AND HALF YEAR,IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF REAL ISSUE LIKE GROUP B OFFICER MAIN DEMOND GIVE GP 54OO/TO ALL GAZATED OFFICER AND 2400/GP TO ALL LDC AND LIKE THAT.WHAT IS THE PROBLEM FOR NOT GIVING THE ABOVE GP,IF NOT SOLVE BY NAC PLEASE IMMEDIATELY SCRAP ALL EMPLOYE UNION IMMEDIATELY.WE WILL FIGHT SUPREME COURT TO GIVE GP AS DEMANDED BY GAZTTED OFFICR OF GOI
s k a shah - July 21, 2011

Increment falling between Feb and June needs to be rectified b`cause this has an unjustified financial impact throughout the service life. Rating of Gr.D and Gr. C staff (specially the LDCs) equally has no practical sense. The `Bechara Babu` is supposed to occupy the table in a decent manner with white coller without the washing allowance, on the other hand Livearage and washing allowance due to GR. D.
dileep - September 27, 2011

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT DID NOT OCCUR TO ANYONE THAT WHILE CALCULATING THE INCREMENT AS ON 01.07.2006, NOBODY THOUGHT OF GRANTING LESS THAN 3% INCREMENT (CALCULATED AT 0.5% PER MONTH)UPTO MAXIMUM OF 3% FOR PEOPLE COMPLETING 6 MONTHS IN JUNE 2006. THOSE WHO DID NOT WANT INCREMENT IN JULY 2006 OR RETIRING BEFORE THAT COULD HAVE DECIDED OF WHETHER OPTING FOR THE NEW PAY OR OLD. ALL OTHERS COULD GET THEIR DUE. FIXING A SINGLE INCREMENT DATE AND SINGLE RATE OF INCREMENT MEANT LOSS OF AROUND ONE WHOLE YEAR FOR MANY.
Nathan N - September 29, 2011

Some Group B (Gazetted) officers like Administrative Officer Grade III in MOD, who were in the scale of pay of Rs 6500-10500/- are now placed in PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs 4600/-. Whereas in other ministries they are placed in the Grade Pay of Rs 4800/-and subsequently at Rs 5400/-. Why this parity.

Moreover, these so called Gazetted Officers are also not eligible for adhoc bonus as if they are paid anything more than the Group C staff. Some of the Group C staff placed in the Grade Pay of Rs 4800/- are eligible for adhoc bonus.

Why, Why, Why? If anyone has the answer please reply at vimalanathanh@yahoo.co.in
S.B.Bandkar - January 6, 2012

From :S.B.Bandkar, Retd Assistant Audit Officer, Group B (Jun 11)from O/o Director of Audit (Navy), Mumbai under Cadre controlling authority, Director General of Audit, DS, New Delhi and Head of Deptt, CAG of India

Sub: Grant of 3rd financial up-gradation under MACP Scheme
The grant of Grade Pay of Rs. 5400 under MACPS on the basis of CAT Madras order dated 29.12.2010 is one of them in lieu of private secretariat despondent. In reply to RTI query, CAG stated that the order of CAT Chennai bench has been appealed before High Court at Chennai. Apart from, in my earlier number of representations I explained that as and how I may entitle 3rd financial up gradation under MACPS as and when further clarifications/new developments or facts having a bearing on the issue received from Government from time to time. It was again clarified in Oct 11 and Dec 11 by cadre controlling authority that “I have got three regular promotions in the cadre of Auditor, Sr. Auditor and SO/AAO; hence I am not entitled for further financial up gradation under scheme”.
2. Initially I appointed as Clerk/Typist (pre 3050-4590) in Nov 73 as entry grade in IA&AD. Regular promotion earned as Auditor (UDC) (Pre 4500-7000) in Dec 79 as entry grade and confirmed by qualified departmental conformity test (DCT) examination. Under restructuring cadre in IA&AD I was given the promotion post of Senior Auditor (UDC) (Pre 5500-9000) in March 84. Qualified SOG exam in 1997 and become Section Officer (Pre 6500-10500) in Sept 97 as entry grade. Under restructuring cadre in IA&AD I was given the promotion post of Assistant Audit Officer (Pre 7450-11500) in Jun 2011. The pay of SO/AAO has been re-fixed on notional basis of Rs.6200/Rs.7675 in the pre-revised pay scale of Rs.6500-200-10500/7450-225-11500 and without any increment(s) thereto with effect from 1.1.96/12.6.01 respectively (DGA DS letter No. 410/A-Bud/22/Re-Pay/03/Bom-Vizag dated 28.8.03). In view of the above, the regular promotion of Auditor and SO are treated as entry grade (i.e. feeder posts) and the promotion post of Senior Auditor and Assistant Audit Officer are, thus, not categorically fall within the “entry grade “ or “feeder post” as per the scheme.
3. Consequent upon the 6th CPC, the Grade Pay deem to be Rs.2800 (Auditor), Rs.4200 (Sr. Auditor), Rs.4200 (SO) and Rs.4600 (AAO).
4. The pay parity of Senior Auditor with Assistant of Central Secretariat Services (CSS) was established from 1.3.84 which continued up to 31.9.90. Again it was notional basis restored wef 1.1.96 with actual payment from 19.2.03 and without earning any increment thereto. The parity was again disturbed from 15.9.06. The 6th CPC has examined this issue in Para 7.56.8 of Report. The pay commission observed “The commission does not consider it necessary to go in to merit of the demand”……… because it is recommended merger of pre revised pay scale of Rs.5500-9000 for Senior Auditor and 6500-10500 for Section Officer which would automatically place Assistants in CSS and Senior Auditors in an identical revised pay band and grade pay. Thus the grade pays of Rs. 4200 PM was granted to Senior Auditor and Assistants of CSS. 6th CPC recommendation for merger of the three pre-revised scale of Rs.5000-8000, 5500-9000 and Rs.6500-10500 (Para 2.2.21(v) of the Report) was accepted and were notified vide Para (ii), Section I, in Parts B and C of the First Schedule to the CCS (RP) Rules 2008. The above provision of the Rule specifically mentioned that up gradation in terms of Para (ii) Section I may be done in consultation with Deptt of Exp, Min of Fin. The posts which were in the pre-revised scale of Rs.6500-10500 as on 1.1.2006 and which were granted the normal replacement pay structure of Grade Pay of Rs.4200 in the Pay Band PB2 was granted Grade Pay of Rs.4600 vide OM No F.No.11/1/2008-IC dated 13.11.2009.
5. The Grade Pay of SO upgraded from Rs.4200 to Rs.4600 corresponding to the pre-revised scale of Rs.7450-11500 due to up gradation of the posts which were in the pre-revised scale of Rs.6500-10500 (OM dated 12.11.09). Similarly, the Grade Pay of AAO upgraded from Rs.4600 to Rs.4800 corresponding to the pre-revised scale of Rs.7500-12000 due to merger of post of Section Officer and Assistant Audit Officer and re-designated the post of AAO as fresh entry grade (i.e. Feeder Post) vide Notification under GSR 622 (E) dated 29.8.08.
6. In Sept 10, Government clarified that the benefit of the MACPS would be available from the date of actual joining of the post of entry grade vide sl. 4 of Annexure to OM dated 9.9.10. Further, the promotion of an employee from the feeder post to the promotion post (in this case from Auditor to Senior Auditor under restructuring cadre in IA&AD) is, however, not being treated as promotion for the purpose of MACPS (Item No 41 – OM No 11/2/2008-JCM dated 21.4.2011).It is further stated that as per existing Headquarters Orders promotion of Stenographer to the post of AAOs after passing SOG/SAS examination is being treated as fresh appointment.
7. It is, therefore, clear facts that the regular promotion of Auditor and SO/AAO are constituted “entry grade” i.e. feeder posts whereas the promotion post of Senior Auditor under restructuring cadre in IA&AD is, therefore, not deem to be a regular promotion for the purpose of MACPS. As such, I have earned only two regular promotions for the purpose of MACPS and I am to entitle 3rd financial up-gradation under the scheme. In fact, it is injustice to me that the promotion post of Senior Auditor under restructuring cadre in IA&AD in Mar 84 clarified as regular promotion as entry grade/feeder post for the purpose of the scheme and pending review of cadre structuring in IA&AD as directed time bound programme by Government in Feb 2011. Further, as a result, numbers of junior AAOs, Auditors, Senior Auditors, stenos were granted Rs.5400 under the scheme by the cadre controlling authority and I was remained and retired with Grade Pay of Rs.4800.
8. It is also requested that benefit of the judgment should be given to similar situated employees without forcing each and every employees to go to the court of law.
Sankar - January 28, 2012

Dear sir
respechtad sir
sir 1993 temparari states casual laborce the govt for 18 20 years srvice agebor
ts casul labor’s and on man for the age wthin 42 43 years agebor for ts casu labor’s.
sir sir ts casul labours for the exempule within for menits axcedent jaregitty eanty presthitti sir
sir jaragalani na openean kadu sir.sir govt by postinge ordrce esthuneda sir.
Sir imdiatly permenent post reglation.pl pl
Thanks
emater spllinge mistake unty swary sir
U M Rao - May 7, 2012

12K to PB4 with GP 7600 long time due and aicpmfewa is pushing forward to this.
or else
12K retired earlier 1986 will draw more pension than who are retiring now as per recent DA rise etc.
NR ARYA - May 21, 2012

Chairman, NAC, 6th CPC,
“For favourable consideration on TOP Priority in the next NAC”

Sir, it is purely injustice to Gp ‘B’ Gazetted Officers (like Asst Accts Officer & Asst Manager) of Canteen Stores Department, Min of Defence as they have been placed in the Grade Pay of Rs 4600/- while their juniors or subordinates are also drawing same Gde Pay with lesser years of service under MACP scheme. The issue was raised jointly with the Department for enhancement of the Gd Pay of Rs 4600/- to Rs 4800/- and subsequently be place in the GP of Rs 5400/- as non functional Grade Pay after completion of 4 years in the Gde Pay of Rs 4800/- , which has not yet either been put before the NAC of 6the CPC or may be lingering at BOCCS,Room No 16, L-I Block, New Delhi.

In view of the above, and having time consuming factor with regards to great anomalies between Gp ‘C’ and Gp’B’ Gazetted Posts in Canteen Stores Department, I may request
to the members as well as to the Hony. Chairman of NAC to kindly consider our anomalies at par with the Gp ‘B’ posts exists in the CGDA/DGADS (e.g SO, Asst Accts Officer & Asst Audit Officer

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